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Can we ban "refunding mentorships" once and for all?

by SANTA - 09 July, 2022 - 10:00 PM
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Im not really sure why im on this list....
The problem with sauls was that he sold tighes refund ebooks just in a different format.
I have writen parts for one store and not anything else.
I gave u the writen part for vc since u barely asked any questions at all and u already knew all the stuff. 
I speak in call 1-1 with my customers so ur not paying for the method you pay for the teacher. 
Tigeh didnt respond for days/weeks and i respond within a few hours max.....
If staff bans this i think we should ban all people teaching stuff aswell Like logitech, Lenovo and such since that is super public. 
Refunding services are super saturated and take to high fees so why would you not just want someone to teach you how to do them urself.
 
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(10 July, 2022 - 02:39 PM)Sleepyftw Wrote: Show More
Im not really sure why im on this list....
The problem with sauls was that he sold tighes refund ebooks just in a different format.
I have writen parts for one store and not anything else.
I gave u the writen part for vc since u barely asked any questions at all and u already knew all the stuff. 
I speak in call 1-1 with my customers so ur not paying for the method you pay for the teacher. 
Tigeh didnt respond for days/weeks and i respond within a few hours max.....
If staff bans this i think we should ban all people teaching stuff aswell Like logitech, Lenovo and such since that is super public. 
Refunding services are super saturated and take to high fees so why would you not just want someone to teach you how to do them urself.
List was made just to show how many "refunding mentorships" there are,
I'm not saying you are a scammer or that u re sellin public content, but untll now every "mentor" exit scammed. Staff team should check every single one "mentor"

I agree with you, if my suggestion gets approved, Logitech and Lenovo "mentorships" should get banned too
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(This post was last modified: 10 July, 2022 - 05:25 PM by Alex. Edited 1 time in total.)
Imo I don't think this is 100% true, not only the seller is making money, also the one who bought the refunding mentorship, of course depends on what mentorship, I got a VC from @SpaceRiot and he's been helping me in all my refunds, without him I didn't have the things I have today. 
I don't have any regrets and I'm glad I could learn some stuff with him.
He's a great mentor and we help eachother. 

In this case i'm not defending @SpaceRiot because he's my friend, but because of the things he teached me 
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Hi,

I know i wasn't mentioned in the list but i'm still one of the targets of this.

I see many people here agreeing to banning Refund mentorships, none of them actual customers nor people who  really have anything to do with this, of course they will agree since they aren't having any benefit anyway.

I totally understand the uproar against this because of Tigeh and Saul. But to be honest those were scammers, just because some muslims did 9/11 i'm not calling every muslim a terrorist either.
I have many customers with all of them very happy with my service, they are well aware that there is enough public information out there about refunding, but they decide to rather pay an expert to teach them since all guides out there are random leaks which are either outdated or can cause rebills and other problems, i had customers who were about to risk getting their address blacklisted which would cause problems for their family or getting their card blacklisted, luckily i could prevent that to keep them safe and they are very thankful for that.

I agree that there are still some "mentorships" from new users here, i've just seen another scam report against kingpin who also just started one, but guess what the same happens to the entire ebook section and refund services. It's unfortunate what saul and tigeh did but i can speak for myself that i am not here to commit a scam, but rather to enjoy my time here on the forum and help people out that are lost.

Now regarding the argument about "Selling public information".... i can't say this enough....:
Literally 90% of all Methods that are sold here are "Public information", someone here has a "Ratting mentorship", from your perspective thats basically public information too, but the difference between getting lectured by an expert and just scrolling through reposted outdated leaks is the Security that you know what you are doing. If you look at it from such a perspective, refunding services are public information too, why not ban all of them then? I remember when i paid a refunder 115$ to refund an iphone 11 for me, just for me to see in the amazon chat history that he just basically said "the box was empty", i felt like an idiot.
So i'd rather teach people how to do it themselves, you can't really blame me for teaching people how to refund stuff for the same price they would pay a refund service to do it for them, with the SAME "public information"

All of my customers know that most stuff can be found in public, but they want to be sure and for that they pay a Mentor, heck there aren't 15 year old kids who randomly buy something for so much money, the people are still adults who know what they want to invest in.


If it's necassary i can ask some clients to comment their thoughts regarding this
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(10 July, 2022 - 05:42 PM)SpaceRiot Wrote: Show More
Hi,

I know i wasn't mentioned in the list but i'm still one of the targets of this.

I see many people here agreeing to banning Refund mentorships, none of them actual customers nor people who  really have anything to do with this, of course they will agree since they aren't having any benefit anyway.

I totally understand the uproar against this because of Tigeh and Saul. But to be honest those were scammers, just because some muslims did 9/11 i'm not calling every muslim a terrorist either.
I have many customers with all of them very happy with my service, they are well aware that there is enough public information out there about refunding, but they decide to rather pay an expert to teach them since all guides out there are random leaks which are either outdated or can cause rebills and other problems, i had customers who were about to risk getting their address blacklisted which would cause problems for their family or getting their card blacklisted, luckily i could prevent that to keep them safe and they are very thankful for that.

I agree that there are still some "mentorships" from new users here, i've just seen another scam report against kingpin who also just started one, but guess what the same happens to the entire ebook section and refund services. It's unfortunate what saul and tigeh did but i can speak for myself that i am not here to commit a scam, but rather to enjoy my time here on the forum and help people out that are lost.

Now regarding the argument about "Selling public information".... i can't say this enough....:
Literally 90% of all Methods that are sold here are "Public information", someone here has a "Ratting mentorship", from your perspective thats basically public information too, but the difference between getting lectured by an expert and just scrolling through reposted outdated leaks is the Security that you know what you are doing. If you look at it from such a perspective, refunding services are public information too, why not ban all of them then? I remember when i paid a refunder 115$ to refund an iphone 11 for me, just for me to see in the amazon chat history that he just basically said "the box was empty", i felt like an idiot.
So i'd rather teach people how to do it themselves, you can't really blame me for teaching people how to refund stuff for the same price they would pay a refund service to do it for them, with the SAME "public information"

All of my customers know that most stuff can be found in public, but they want to be sure and for that they pay a Mentor, heck there aren't 15 year old kids who randomly buy something for so much money, the people are still adults who know what they want to invest in.


If it's necassary i can ask some clients to comment their thoughts regarding this
thx for droppin ur point of view, ur example with muslims it's so accurate
banning all "refunding mentorships" could be a little to aggressive, checking each "mentor" might be better
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