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OP 16 February, 2023 - 03:17 AM
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Scammers Profile Link: https://cracked.io/Raw
Sales Thread: -
Amount or Item(s) Scammed: 1000$
Screenshots of Communication: provided to @ Liars
Crypto address for a refund: will give when needed
long story short, the user is selling a public paypal method advertised as mentorship. somewhat like the old incident with Tigeh
there were 2 methods included one for mobile and one for computer, won't disclose any details but the mobile version of it can be easily found
the user claims that the desktop version is different, but it's literally the same concept, the only thing different is that you have to use an usa proxy (bought from a site he provided)
he sent me some stores, most of them were out of stock and i bought from one that was shittier and i couldn't hit anything, tho i never blamed the method itself since i figured it out that the logs are dogshit.
i'd like a partial refund of 900$ for this since he did helped me with some tips and with the proxy website and some vouched sellers with good logs.
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16 February, 2023 - 03:17 AM
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16 February, 2023 - 03:24 AM
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@ Liars
First, this guy was not able to use PayPal's on mobile. He sent me valid proof of an error that shows he was not able to hit PayPal's on his mobile. Even if the logs were "shit" (his excuse) or good, he got the same error "mobile carrier can not be verified". So I offered him my mentorship, as soon as he purchased it, he got a hit/in a PayPal within 30 minutes. After I also gave him all the resources too, he decides to open a scam report.
It's like when a refunder on Cracked.io sells a mentorship and teaches you how to refund, you go on Cracked.io and type in "Refunding method" for the store you want and it pops up with a 2021 method, and has similar methods on their list that are public. I've seen so many refunder's methods which are leaked, it happens. PayPal has been around for years and years. Obviously there are going to be methods, hence I sell a mentorship to help people with those out-dated methods. NONE of my students have complained whatsoever. I can send all the transcripts and everything in your PMs if needed, as Won states "I've alr talked". This is some scummy ass scam report and he knows it. Also, if you knew the "websites", you would have never used it the way I told you to. Seller was also given resources such as log shops, etc.
He saw how he couldn't hit on mobile and I told him that PC was better, so I gave him my mentorship and he is able to hit, then he tries to find a loop hole of looking for old posted methods for PayPal to try to get a refund after he get's all the resources/information. It's honestly very sad, he was able to purchase things as well. In summary, he is legit trying to just get his money back because he thinks that he would've thought of this lmao. Refunding is like this, it's simple. There's no hard shit you have to do, Won thinks "Oh, it's so easy and similar I would've told of this" when we all know he wouldn't have.
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OP 16 February, 2023 - 03:43 AM
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Alright I am gonna reply to every single argument of yours.
Quote:First, this guy was not able to use PayPal's on mobile. He sent me valid proof of an error that shows he was not able to hit PayPal's on his mobile. Even if the logs were "shit" (his excuse) or good, he got the same error "mobile carrier can not be verified". So I offered him my mentorship, as soon as he purchased it, he got a hit/in a PayPal within 30 minutes. After I also gave him all the resources too, he decides to open a scam report.
Yeah I sent you valid proof since there is an issue with my carrier I assume. This method with carrier 100% works with USA carriers or other well known carriers like Orange.
My excuse that the logs are shit? Excuse me... They are literally shit and you sent me that shop, you even specified that the quality is not that good.
I never got a hit within 30 mins. A hit is when you literally complete the payment.
Right after I sent you the screenshots with gaypal payment screen, you quickly forwarded them in your channel just to attract more customers even tho they were not real hits. (saw this thing happening on the seller's groups on telegram bunch of payment screens but only a few payment completed screenshots).
What resources have you sent?
A public mobile method, and a copy of it for desktop with the only changes being the fact that you have to use ccleaner instead of clearing the browser cache with airplane mode? And to use a AT&T proxy?
fr bro..
Quote:It's like when a refunder on Cracked.io sells a mentorship and teaches you how to refund, you go on Cracked.io and type in "Refunding method" for the store you want and it pops up with a 2021 method, and has similar methods on their list that are public. I've seen so many refunder's methods which are leaked, it happens. PayPal has been around for years and years. Obviously there are going to be methods, hence I sell a mentorship to help people with those out-dated methods. NONE of my students have complained whatsoever. I can send all the transcripts and everything in your PMs if needed, as Won states "I've alr talked". This is some scummy ass scam report and he knows it. Also, if you knew the "websites", you would have never used it the way I told you to. Seller was also given resources such as log shops, etc.
I am glad you came up with refunding as an example.
What happened with Tigeh, he got beamed for the exactly same reason. It took quite a few scam reports but he eventually got banned since he was selling outdated shit and public knowledge. Advertised for something that was literally no mentorship. Only some tips.
Indeed no customers of your complained since they got the good batch of pp logs.
I talked with the french guy today that bought the "mentorship" from you too and I came up with the fact that the method is public and he agreed. He said he saw it before on cracked.
It's not some scummy ass report, it's the truth.
You are right I would have never used it. BUT IT'S STILL PUBLIC.
It takes 30 mins of searching at max to find some log sellers. And I found the method on one of their telegram groups. Think I even saw it on a sellpass page but I can't remember.
Quote:He saw how he couldn't hit on mobile and I told him that PC was better, so I gave him my mentorship and he is able to hit, then he tries to find a loop hole of looking for old posted methods for PayPal to try to get a refund after he get's all the resources/information. It's honestly very sad, he was able to purchase things as well. In summary, he is legit trying to just get his money back because he thinks that he would've thought of this lmao. Refunding is like this, it's simple. There's no hard shit you have to do, Won thinks "Oh, it's so easy and similar I would've told of this" when we all know he wouldn't have.
you gave me your what? you must be kidding calling that a mentorship.
and nah it's not a loop hole, i found the method by mistake by looking at images from the telegram groups to see what to hit since i also told you that i am not sure what to hit.
yeah i am trying to get my money back since i literally paid 1000$ for nothing.
you did send me the shops from where to buy the logs from and the proxy website which I never heard about before.
that's why i will agree on a partial refund of 900$
And no my friend, it's not similar, it's IDENTIC
sent proof to @ Liars in dm, waiting for his decision.
holy shit i wrote so much shit
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16 February, 2023 - 04:14 AM
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Okay so you're calling Azrael a beamer?
He has a refunding group that have the "basic terms" and store list. He helps you with your refunds, as I help you with your hits. You make no sense, you're back tracking because you know I'm right. Stop trying to find everyway of trying to get a refund. Also, if one of my customers agreed he saw it was public before, why would he purchase mine? You see, your evidence isn't valid. Maybe he tried it and it didn't work for him, so he purchased my mentorship, and I taught him how to use them with resources.
Stop mentioning "bad logs" as well. The logs don't change the fact that you got "mobile carrier could not be verified". Don't do any of that petty poo shit. You WOULD NOT have thought of using the exact proxy site, log shops, etc. You got a successful hit and told me that MY mentorship helped you hit. Before that, you were NOT able to.
This goes for every Food B4U as well, most if not all are leaked. You're saying people who sell the method then it gets leaked by a customer, they have to refund everyone else?
I sent @ Liars our PMs.
Also, none of your statements justify anything. You're back tracking to "Tigeh" lmao, no where relevant.
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OP 16 February, 2023 - 04:35 AM
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(16 February, 2023 - 04:14 AM)Raw Wrote: Show MoreOkay so you're calling Azrael a beamer?
He has a refunding group that have the "basic terms" and store list. He helps you with your refunds, as I help you with your hits. You make no sense, you're back tracking because you know I'm right. Stop trying to find everyway of trying to get a refund. Also, if one of my customers agreed he saw it was public before, why would he purchase mine? You see, your evidence isn't valid. Maybe he tried it and it didn't work for him, so he purchased my mentorship, and I taught him how to use them with resources.
Stop mentioning "bad logs" as well. The logs don't change the fact that you got "mobile carrier could not be verified". Don't do any of that petty poo shit. You WOULD NOT have thought of using the exact proxy site, log shops, etc. You got a successful hit and told me that MY mentorship helped you hit. Before that, you were NOT able to.
This goes for every Food B4U as well, most if not all are leaked. You're saying people who sell the method then it gets leaked by a customer, they have to refund everyone else?
I sent @ Liars our PMs.
Also, none of your statements justify anything. You're back tracking to "Tigeh" lmao, no where relevant.
Nah, you are not right, maybe he did not complaied because he has money and he needed the help from you. Maybe he doesn't have as much knowledge as I do?
And I couldn't care less about that thousand, but finding the method public and it being literally identic to yours is totally pathetic.
There's no mentorship even needed, you said it yourself "trial and error". You can only give some tips but I can't even come with ideas of what tips you could give.
The method is literally straight forward and the only thing that would be needed are extra questions about it since it's written so poorly.
Never mentioned that your mentorship helped me get that hit, it was the method itself. I just tried it over and over again. Also, why do you even mentioned the bad logs? they are literally irrelevant with the carrier story.
Yes my carrier is not compatible to do this for some reasons, what do u want me to do?
And considering that you claimed your mentorship helped me get a hit.
It was the desktop method which is literally a copy paste of the mobile version.
So the method helped me not the mentorship.
And what you are trying to say is that I spent 250 usd on the mobile method then u asked me for 750$ more for the mentorship which was like what 2 questions from me? and the desktop method? fr dude?
as for the end of your messages i don't understand how that is relevant to this deal dispute.
you sold something public, a little edited and offering help for it cuz u cant call that mentorship
im tired of this shit already
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This is also the "French guy" that isn't even from the USA. The "mobile method" for Won wasn't even doable. Although it might be the same concept in similar ways, they're different.
https://imgur.com/a/8vniqKw
Another thing to your comment to the "trial and error", you asked me "how much should I hit on chaturbate". Bro, I can't say this enough, this is your job to try out the amounts on Chaturbate. I do not know all the limits to EVERY website in the world. I'm not here to feed you websites for cashouts etc, I'm here to help you hit. So asking me "how much should I hit on chaturbate" is an unanswerable question. As I saw, S4L hit about $700 worth of Chaturbate on one account in 5 minutes.
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