Scam report against @Raw | $1,000

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Like S4L said also, this is not solely based on the method. This is a mentorship to guaranteed by the end of the mentorship, you will know how to use hit, have knowledge in the category, and have lifetime support by me. I guarantee at least one 1:1 successful hit like mentioned as well.

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This is also the "French guy" that isn't even from the USA. The "mobile method" for Won wasn't even doable. Although it might be the same concept in similar ways, they're different.

https://imgur.com/a/8vniqKw

Another thing to your comment to the "trial and error", you asked me "how much should I hit on chaturbate". Bro, I can't say this enough, this is your job to try out the amounts on Chaturbate. I do not know all the limits to EVERY website in the world. I'm not here to feed you websites for cashouts etc, I'm here to help you hit. So asking me "how much should I hit on chaturbate" is an unanswerable question. As I saw, S4L hit about $700 worth of Chaturbate on one account in 5 minutes.

- Raw saying he never tried CB, and it may not work as "top off site" : https://prnt.sc/u_LCuLDKUPfL
- Me showing Raw I hit 616$ by myself, trying on my own : https://prnt.sc/6l7-NBarWb3G

I didn't read the whole DD, I woke up from bed to write my first comment on this DD
Can you share when you guys talked about me ?

From this comment : https://cracked.io/Thread-Scam-report-ag...id27118899
I agree I saw the method public somewhere, and I think even on c.io . Raw made it useful to me
I've paid 1k$ to become successful hitting, that's what the mentorship is for, it's not about the method

An add-on to the "trial and error" mentioning.

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Hi, I'm a student of Raw's mentorship, and I can help on this DD. I'm the "french guy" stated above, so I'm involved in this

I bought the mentorship for 1k$ a few days before @won. When buying, I knew I would receive :
- a method I already knew (paid other people for mentorship, turns out it was ultra low quality as they only sent me the method and said goodbye)
- any other kind of help, even after-mentorship or after the method is shared, mainly thanks to his experience hitting paypal logs (I know him from his B4U service)
- a private groupchat with Raw, other students, and other similar small perks
And yeah, at the end I already knew the method @Raw is including in the mentorship. But he answered all my questions and was always extremely invested on my success hitting logs. (He would check on me time to time, would show a lot of support on both success and failures, ...). I was not even 100% sure the method I knew was working, so it was also beneficial in this mater.

I was able to hit for a bit more than 1k2$ only a few hours after the mentorship, only thanks to @Raw's mentorship ! I was hard stuck on unanswered questions and failures before this.
I understand that @won is asking for a 90% refund. But public method or not, I believe that the mentorship offered by Raw is not 90% based on the method.
I would even say that it's 20% method, 80% answers and knowledge. Raw will have NO secret and will always be online (how the fuck bro go to sleep).

@won asked me for some help, as he saw I also paid for the mentorship and that I was making a lot of hits.
After a little talk, I've tried to assist him as much as I can. We have both screenshared some Paypal hits and shared some knowledge. Won was doing everything exactly as we've been told, and exactly the way I make successful hits.
From my point of view, I see that @won is upset that there is nothing magical in this, that he seems unsuccessful for now (imo mainly if not only because paypal logs are out of stock OR low quality, and this for the last few days, on every paypal logs shops).
I understand why he is asking for a refund, but I believe it's not @Raw's fault.

For crayon people too lazy to read, here is my meaning in short

- @Raw mentorship is 20% method, 80% answers / help / knowledge / groupchat / ...
- Public method or not, I became successful only thanks to the mentorship, as I was stuck before
- There is a global out-of-stock on UHQ paypal logs right now, so it's hard to hit
- Even if Raw ends up refunding the mentorship, I would not ask for a refund as I believe it was worth my 1k$ anyway
- The mentorship is all about "making people successful", it was the pay condition on the MM deal we had : "I guarantee you a 1:1 successful hit" - Raw https://prnt.sc/6rxuZFnKavK1

I'm ready to share anything that could help, either screenshots or answers to questions. Please ping me if you need me
BTW I confirm the screenshots here : https://cracked.io/Thread-Scam-report-ag...id27120000 it's me and I mean what I said

Edit: Also, it can happen that you sell a method not knowing it was leaked. You either bought it, or it got leaked after you starting selling it, etc

The mentorship itself at the end of the day, I still don't consider it a mentorship.
I'm not upset of not hitting anything cuz i know the logs are ass.
I contacted you just to make sure I wad doing everything alright since @Raw wasn't online for like 5 hours.
@Raw's mentorship is no way 20% method 80% mentorship.
Consider the fact that he charged me 250$ for the mobile version in the first place which he did not wanted to even give me support for it, I should have made a scam report yearlier because when selling a method you have to make sure the buyer earns something.
I asked him to help me and he said to pay him the other 250$ we discussed about a bit earlier just for some help.
I ended up buying his entire mentorship for the other 750$ (50$ being the stores list).
So from my point of viee the method is 75% and the mentorship 25%, ofc all from a logical view.

Since this method doesn't require any mentorship at all, I consider it to be much more less than 25%
@S4L idk what help u could have asked for from @Raw
As I said before it's a simple trial and error case scenario.
I wasn't stuck the mobile method works just fine, and there was no need for the desktop method if my carrier didn't had that issue.

As for your edit I'm pretty sure he knows himself too that he is selling a public methods, but he's too arrogant for that.

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This is also the "French guy" that isn't even from the USA. The "mobile method" for Won wasn't even doable. Although it might be the same concept in similar ways, they're different.

https://imgur.com/a/8vniqKw

Another thing to your comment to the "trial and error", you asked me "how much should I hit on chaturbate". Bro, I can't say this enough, this is your job to try out the amounts on Chaturbate. I do not know all the limits to EVERY website in the world. I'm not here to feed you websites for cashouts etc, I'm here to help you hit. So asking me "how much should I hit on chaturbate" is an unanswerable question. As I saw, S4L hit about $700 worth of Chaturbate on one account in 5 minutes.

I don't see how this is relevant to the scam report but thanks for the info.
Didn't know you are offended if I ask something.
Next time I'll just ask one of your customers like @S4L since he's nicer.

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This is also the "French guy" that isn't even from the USA. The "mobile method" for Won wasn't even doable. Although it might be the same concept in similar ways, they're different.

https://imgur.com/a/8vniqKw

Another thing to your comment to the "trial and error", you asked me "how much should I hit on chaturbate". Bro, I can't say this enough, this is your job to try out the amounts on Chaturbate. I do not know all the limits to EVERY website in the world. I'm not here to feed you websites for cashouts etc, I'm here to help you hit. So asking me "how much should I hit on chaturbate" is an unanswerable question. As I saw, S4L hit about $700 worth of Chaturbate on one account in 5 minutes.

- Raw saying he never tried CB, and it may not work as "top off site" : https://prnt.sc/u_LCuLDKUPfL
- Me showing Raw I hit 616$ by myself, trying on my own : https://prnt.sc/6l7-NBarWb3G

I didn't read the whole DD, I woke up from bed to write my first comment on this DD
Can you share when you guys talked about me ?

From this comment : https://cracked.io/Thread-Scam-report-ag...id27118899
I agree I saw the method public somewhere, and I think even on c.io . Raw made it useful to me
I've paid 1k$ to become successful hitting, that's what the mentorship is for, it's not about the method

And do you consider that a mentorship?
A mentorship should be some 1;1 guiding too.
He was useful in what way, telling him what he hit? No offense @S4L , you guys gotta be kidding me.
I paid 1k$ mainly for the methods but finding out that they are public (: it sucks

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Like S4L said also, this is not solely based on the method. This is a mentorship to guaranteed by the end of the mentorship, you will know how to use hit, have knowledge in the category, and have lifetime support by me. I guarantee at least one 1:1 successful hit like mentioned as well.

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This is also the "French guy" that isn't even from the USA. The "mobile method" for Won wasn't even doable. Although it might be the same concept in similar ways, they're different.

https://imgur.com/a/8vniqKw

Another thing to your comment to the "trial and error", you asked me "how much should I hit on chaturbate". Bro, I can't say this enough, this is your job to try out the amounts on Chaturbate. I do not know all the limits to EVERY website in the world. I'm not here to feed you websites for cashouts etc, I'm here to help you hit. So asking me "how much should I hit on chaturbate" is an unanswerable question. As I saw, S4L hit about $700 worth of Chaturbate on one account in 5 minutes.

- Raw saying he never tried CB, and it may not work as "top off site" : https://prnt.sc/u_LCuLDKUPfL
- Me showing Raw I hit 616$ by myself, trying on my own : https://prnt.sc/6l7-NBarWb3G

I didn't read the whole DD, I woke up from bed to write my first comment on this DD
Can you share when you guys talked about me ?

From this comment : https://cracked.io/Thread-Scam-report-ag...id27118899
I agree I saw the method public somewhere, and I think even on c.io . Raw made it useful to me
I've paid 1k$ to become successful hitting, that's what the mentorship is for, it's not about the method

An add-on to the "trial and error" mentioning.

shut up, you are treating me like a shit when i ask you anything
also i don't see how the other customer hitting is relevant for this deal dispute.

At the end of the day, the method you are selling is public and as for the mentorship, it's not even needed since with 1k$ you should help your customers anyways have success with your public method.

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@Liars mind checking this DD out?

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I honestly can’t this you seriously Won. I’ve sent @Liars our Telegram chat history. You’ve been a dick to me since day 1. The fact you’re trying to be petty and gaslight me on “being offline for 5 hours” is scummy. I have a life and you’re in a different time zone.

The “trial and error” scenario is relevant because you mentioned it, and when I prove the point, you say “that’s nothing relevant”.

Another thing, the relevance to my showing of my customer’s hits is completely relevant. You’re complaining that the mentorship is the reason why you aren’t able to hit. Also, when you say $50 in store list and $250 in the method, it doesn’t matter, you weren’t charged extra, I took all of that into accountability, hence only charging you $700 more adding up to $1000 price mentorship.


The last thing is that you’re fucking petty and think you’re going to be spoon fed. It is YOUR job to contact me for your issue, I’ll mentor you to get over those obstacles. I’m not a baby sitter, I give you a groupchat with other students as a RESOURCE, hence you asking S4L for help. The audacity you have to say I haven’t done anything is appalling as well. I’m obligated to have a life, “5 hours offline” and you’re complaining? Yeah, even you mentioned “I’m impatient” in Telegram DMs, so don’t even start trying to guilt trip me by saying “S4L is more help” “You don’t respond” , etc.

@Liars

ALWAYS CONFIRM MY IDENTITY THROUGH PM

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I honestly can’t this you seriously Won. I’ve sent @Liars our Telegram chat history. You’ve been a dick to me since day 1. The fact you’re trying to be petty and gaslight me on “being offline for 5 hours” is scummy. I have a life and you’re in a different time zone.

The “trial and error” scenario is relevant because you mentioned it, and when I prove the point, you say “that’s nothing relevant”.

Another thing, the relevance to my showing of my customer’s hits is completely relevant. You’re complaining that the mentorship is the reason why you aren’t able to hit. Also, when you say $50 in store list and $250 in the method, it doesn’t matter, you weren’t charged extra, I took all of that into accountability, hence only charging you $700 more adding up to $1000 price mentorship.


The last thing is that you’re fucking petty and think you’re going to be spoon fed. It is YOUR job to contact me for your issue, I’ll mentor you to get over those obstacles. I’m not a baby sitter, I give you a groupchat with other students as a RESOURCE, hence you asking S4L for help. The audacity you have to say I haven’t done anything is appalling as well. I’m obligated to have a life, “5 hours offline” and you’re complaining? Yeah, even you mentioned “I’m impatient” in Telegram DMs, so don’t even start trying to guilt trip me by saying “S4L is more help” “You don’t respond” , etc.

@Liars

Did I ever complained about the fact that I can't hit? Don't think so.
I know I can't hit bcs the logs I bought are ass.
Spoon fed? Well that's what a mentorship should be like.
This happened to me before, I bought an Azure method way back from a guy for 500$ if i am not wrong, he stayed with me on discord for over 10 hours in different calls and we ended up in a dd because the method was not working for me.
I don't remember if he got banned or refunded me but yeah, life sucks.

You never invited me to the group chat with other students, you invited me in the channel where you just advertise the mentorship.
I said I am not patient because I sent you the 250$ initially for the mobile method and you kept asking for more money since I flexed on you with my money (yeah i was a dick i admit it) but you're still a fucking dog. (here's the proof: https://imgur.com/a/OUaw0fw )
I had to beg you to send me the mobile method in the first place because you were spamming me like a little pussy that you are, come on bro get some help.

@Liars come on already, i am not patient with this fag

Edit: here's the initial 250$ https://i.imgur.com/xgmDiQh.png , moment after you can read up what happened, he tried to get more money from me

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Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

ALWAYS CONFIRM MY IDENTITY THROUGH PM

[695]

Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me. The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for that

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Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me.
The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for thatx

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Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me. The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for that

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Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me.
The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for thatx

A mentor is someone who shares their knowledge, skills and/or experience, to help another to develop and grow.

“Teaching” might be similar, but they’re very different. A teacher can teach someone something without experience, a mentor can guide you with experience.

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Another thing, I specifically told you that I was at the gym when you were asking me questions. I stopped my workout to help you for 30 minutes on Discord, you said it was 2 AM for you and it was late, and you should’ve gone to sleep. So I said you probably should we can can continue this tomorrow. You denied, you put me in a position to rush the answers to your question, even so, I answered them with usefulness.

Again, if you would’ve been patient and gone to sleep, we could’ve had a more confident session for the both of us, but of course, you’re going to blame me for not taking the time out of my workout to help you, when told you before-hand.

ALWAYS CONFIRM MY IDENTITY THROUGH PM

[695]

Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me. The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for that

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Also, a mentorship definition:

A mentorship is a relationship between two people where the individual with more experience, knowledge, and connections is able to pass along what they have learned to a more junior individual within a certain field.

More experience in knowledge following a method?
Let's be serious, there's nothing else you could potentially teach me.
The methods are literally straight forward.
The only thing are follow-up questions like, can I hit that / what's the limit for thatx

A mentor is someone who shares their knowledge, skills and/or experience, to help another to develop and grow.

“Teaching” might be similar, but they’re very different. A teacher can teach someone something without experience, a mentor can guide you with experience.

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Another thing, I specifically told you that I was at the gym when you were asking me questions. I stopped my workout to help you for 30 minutes on Discord, you said it was 2 AM for you and it was late, and you should’ve gone to sleep. So I said you probably should we can can continue this tomorrow. You denied, you put me in a position to rush the answers to your question, even so, I answered them with usefulness.

Again, if you would’ve been patient and gone to sleep, we could’ve had a more confident session for the both of us, but of course, you’re going to blame me for not taking the time out of my workout to help you, when told you before-hand.

Still this doesn't explain the fact that the method is PUBLIC.
I am not gonna reply to you anymore, everything has been told.
I will wait for @Liars to take a decision.

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Hey, only responding to the ping
@won

He was useful in what way, telling him what he hit? No offense @S4L , you guys gotta be kidding me.

It was when I was looking for a target website for the 1:1 during the mentorship. He proposed Netflix, but I wanted something that could be useful for me. We ended up doing Netflix, as I had no idea what to hit xD But yeah, he wanted me to hit so I can understand the process, that's why he didn't try to hit chaturbate with me as a first hit.
If I remember good he said something like "we can do Netflix so you can feel the thing, and try other things when you feel confident"

Else, he was useful for the following :
- Providing a method (seems to be semi-public, but he added resources and details to make the process 100% working)
- Reliable and UHQ resources
- Answers to any kind of questions I have, as for example
"When I have the paypal error after successful login, what's the issue ?"
"Why logs are mainly USA ?" (this kind of question is so useless for the mentorship that he could have ignored it, but instead he gave me a 3 messages answer with the reason and what kind of user logs are UHQ)
"Where do your students buy there logs ?"
"Where do you find all these pp stores ?"
"How can I make money from this ?" "What can I hit to resell ?"
"What's the process you're using for email bombing ?"
... (probably like 20 other questions)
So in short, he shared knowledge and saved me time, effort and money from trial and error things, or simply he just saved my brain from thinking about these questions that are always painful to ask here or search for online)
- His love and kindness (feels good to have a friendly mentor in this world of scam and capitalism)
- I could simply send him a website, and he would tell me if it's "probably" doable or not, so I can save time effort and money

For the "5 hours offline" part, I think I've always had a good timing because of timezones, but I guess he was either sleeping of dealing with life
Good thing is that there is a "Student" group chat where we can seek for trusted help ^^

I hope this comment was useful, for everybody and for the DD !

Well I am not in the student group sadly.

Providing a method (seems to be semi-public, but he added resources and details to make the process 100% working)
>> it is public, it's not semi public, adding a proxy website in the method itself and a proxy tool come on dude, that's public knowledge

Reliable and UHQ resources
>> UHQ resources? a public proxy tool ? some sellers? and a proxy website? ...

Answers to any kind of questions I have, as for example
>> public stuff, everyone knows the answers for these questions, in fact ill answer them
1. log issue ? ip fraud score is too big? amount is too big? website is hard to hit?
2. considering we are from europe, using USA logs is better since we can hit while these people sleep
3. irrelevant question, with some searches you can find sellers
4. google?
5. that's our job to find targets, if i find a valuable target why would i share it in the first place?
6. our job
7. email bombing is unnecessary ( you can directly close his pp account and it will take some time to recover it ) and you can find services to do that
also if you bought a digital product like a gc email bombing is not needed

maybe it saved you since you are not too familiar with all these kind of stuff but it takes some searches, you don't know how easy it easy to search all of these stuffs
love and kindness, nah, he treated me like a shit

as for the website part, it's just a simple guess, there are some factors to look after, how big is the website, what you are trying to hit
it all comes to trial and error at the end, you try try try if it doesn't work it doesn't, move on