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OP 26 November, 2024 - 04:37 PM
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(25 November, 2024 - 07:08 AM)chommersom Wrote: Show MoreMiddleman accepted? Nope. How would that even work?
I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1on1 support and being on the buyer's time without being paid.
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27 November, 2024 - 01:27 PM
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(26 November, 2024 - 04:37 PM)Exchanging Wrote: Show More (25 November, 2024 - 07:08 AM)chommersom Wrote: Show MoreMiddleman accepted? Nope. How would that even work?
I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1on1 support and being on the buyer's time without being paid.
If buyers are wasting your time, then maybe selling your method isn't the right move. People are asking for a middleman for a reason, this forum is full of money-making scammers. If you treat buyers the way you stated, "I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1-on-1 support and being on the buyer's schedule without getting paid," then this thread should be avoided. You're still getting paid, but through a trusted middleman, who happens to be the forum admin.
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27 November, 2024 - 03:26 PM
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(27 November, 2024 - 01:27 PM)VALORMAN Wrote: Show More (26 November, 2024 - 04:37 PM)Exchanging Wrote: Show More (25 November, 2024 - 07:08 AM)chommersom Wrote: Show MoreMiddleman accepted? Nope. How would that even work?
I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1on1 support and being on the buyer's time without being paid.
If buyers are wasting your time, then maybe selling your method isn't the right move. People are asking for a middleman for a reason, this forum is full of money-making scammers. If you treat buyers the way you stated, "I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1-on-1 support and being on the buyer's schedule without getting paid," then this thread should be avoided. You're still getting paid, but through a trusted middleman, who happens to be the forum admin.
Don't bother with it, dude is a scammer. No matter the terms you try to work with his goal is to get you to send money. He wipes the chat as well so need to mention that as while this may not garner a lot of interest, someone is likely to be curious enough to go ahead and pay so for that reason it has to be clear this is the case. He should prove otherwise and accept middleman so I go ahead and pay him and confirm he is legit otherwise you know the deal.
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OP 27 November, 2024 - 03:35 PM
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(27 November, 2024 - 03:26 PM)Str8t Wrote: Show More (27 November, 2024 - 01:27 PM)VALORMAN Wrote: Show More (26 November, 2024 - 04:37 PM)Exchanging Wrote: Show MoreNope. How would that even work?
I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1on1 support and being on the buyer's time without being paid.
If buyers are wasting your time, then maybe selling your method isn't the right move. People are asking for a middleman for a reason, this forum is full of money-making scammers. If you treat buyers the way you stated, "I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1-on-1 support and being on the buyer's schedule without getting paid," then this thread should be avoided. You're still getting paid, but through a trusted middleman, who happens to be the forum admin.
Don't bother with it, dude is a scammer. No matter the terms you try to work with his goal is to get you to send money. He wipes the chat as well so need to mention that as while this may not garner a lot of interest, someone is likely to be curious enough to go ahead and pay so for that reason it has to be clear this is the case. He should prove otherwise and accept middleman so I go ahead and pay him and confirm he is legit otherwise you know the deal. Every time I gave and provided you evidence and gave into what you wanted, you just kept wanting something else.
For example:
1. You asked questions; I answer most of them besides the ones that can be used to reverse engineer the method.
2. You wanted proof of the cashouts; I showed you that proof on Coinbase. Then, you want me to login to my PayPal even though I showed you that the payments on Coinbase came from PayPal
3. You ask more questions; I provide more answers.
4. I told you I also did the method on another PayPal, you asked for proof; I show you proof of the limit increase and would have showed you the cashout as well.
5. You then propose that you'll send me PayPal and I cash it out for a 60/40 split; I tell you 70/30, but apparently that's still not good enough.
6. You then say you want to use a middleman; I tell you to fuck off and rightfully so, because you are a timewaster.
The reason why I don't use a middleman for methods is because:
1. I'm not going to sit around and wait for you to meet the requirements, then do the method (and be on your time) without getting paid for it
2. I'm not risking the method to fall into the hands of other people without them paying for it
2.a. The middleman that we would be using closed one of my previous threads for an exploit because I wouldn't give it to him for free (which is extortion)
3. All you have to do is tell the middleman that the method doesn't work, then what's he gonna do, test it out for himself? No, he's gonna refund you, then now 2 people know the method without paying for it
Like I told you man, scared money doesn't make money. I trade a lot and run memecoin projects, so I see this constantly and it's so annoying seeing other people bitch out and get cold feet even after you do so much for them and comply to their wants. Just like how they sell early or sell for a loss, they get mad and FUD projects—the same way you're now coming here to sales trash because I blocked you and called you a broke faggot timewaster.
(27 November, 2024 - 01:27 PM)VALORMAN Wrote: Show More (26 November, 2024 - 04:37 PM)Exchanging Wrote: Show More (25 November, 2024 - 07:08 AM)chommersom Wrote: Show MoreMiddleman accepted? Nope. How would that even work?
I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1on1 support and being on the buyer's time without being paid.
If buyers are wasting your time, then maybe selling your method isn't the right move. People are asking for a middleman for a reason, this forum is full of money-making scammers. If you treat buyers the way you stated, "I'm not going to waste my time and energy offering 1-on-1 support and being on the buyer's schedule without getting paid," then this thread should be avoided. You're still getting paid, but through a trusted middleman, who happens to be the forum admin. Read above
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27 November, 2024 - 05:41 PM
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I asked for MM prior not last. Why did you wipe the chats and block me because of middleman?
Let's accept all your justifications are valid, why did you wipe chats and block?
Maybe find a way to get a vouch that can be trusted because if you don't understand how my vouch would be useful then I fail to see how you are trustworthy. You knew I was ready to pay but asking you to show proof from paypal is where you had issues when you are selling a paypal method???
Btw I'm not sales thrashing, I'm calling it like I see it. If it quacks like a scammer it's safe to assume it's a scammer every other claim you make can be just as true as false so not a valid defense.
If you didn't clear chats and block then I'd have come back and said fuck it and paid, then it would be confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that you were legit or a scam but in wiping chats you fall to the side of the scammers.
I also see you left out the part of me offering to pay half before anything so your point of working for free isn't even true then I tried to pay the whole thing with MM again only for you to run away. Someone legit has no reason to be this resistant. It's too many red flags, you're just scared that I'd know if what your teaching is bullshit since my questions had you triggered. And btw I also told you I don't need to do the whole method yet for MM to release funds, once you explain initially and I can approve the method should work you get paid. I don't even need to test it yet, that would take weeks.
Real classy with the negative reps btw lol.
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(27 November, 2024 - 05:41 PM)Str8t Wrote: Show MoreI asked for MM prior not last. Why did you wipe the chats and block me because of middleman?
Let's accept all your justifications are valid, why did you wipe chats and block?
Maybe find a way to get a vouch that can be trusted because if you don't understand how my vouch would be useful then I fail to see how you are trustworthy. You knew I was ready to pay but asking you to show proof from paypal is where you had issues when you are selling a paypal method???
Btw I'm not sales thrashing, I'm calling it like I see it. If it quacks like a scammer it's safe to assume it's a scammer every other claim you make can be just as true as false so not a valid defense.
If you didn't clear chats and block then I'd have come back and said fuck it and paid, then it would be confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that you were legit or a scam but in wiping chats you fall to the side of the scammers.
I also see you left out the part of me offering to pay half before anything so your point of working for free isn't even true then I tried to pay the whole thing with MM again only for you to run away. Someone legit has no reason to be this resistant. It's too many red flags, you're just scared that I'd know if what your teaching is bullshit since my questions had you triggered. And btw I also told you I don't need to do the whole method yet for MM to release funds, once you explain initially and I can approve the method should work you get paid. I don't even need to test it yet, that would take weeks.
Real classy with the negative reps btw lol. I didn't block you for asking for a middleman, pretty sure you asked that before and I told you no (could be mistaken for somebody else). The main reason as to why I cleared our chats and blocked you is because I didn't want to leave you with information you could potentially use to look back and reverse engineer the method yourself. Also, you wasted my time for multiple days, so seeing your name would just kill my vibe and put me in a bad mood. As somebody who makes a majority of their money from trading, I need to be optimistic yet emotionless, which are already two very conflicting feelings... adding anger and annoyance in with that is the holy trinity for fucking up my trades.
A vouch from you means absolutely nothing. I could literally just make a new account and leave a fake vouch if you think your vouch means something. I fail to understand how me showing proof of the cashouts to crypto (that came from PayPal) are any different. Had I shown proof of the PayPal payments, you probably would have asked to see the cashouts for crypto lmao. As I mentioned, I sometimes don't show certain things because it could compromise the method. The PayPal could potentially do that, which I don't want to risk.
I don't quack like a scammer and I explained to you how I don't, you even agreed with me on that. All of my claims have been backed up with proof that you asked for, you just kept digging deeper which is what somebody who reverse engineers methods does—trust me, I've done it before lmao. Now you're saying if I didn't block and clear chats you would have paid? Yeah okay buddy. You're just trying to make me feel like I missed out on a sale, I'm not retarded. Just because I don't bend over to people who are wasting my time doesn't make me a scammer. Like I said, what would happen if you say the method is bullshit or you say it doesn't work? The middleman would probably refund you because they aren't going to do it themselves.
I love how you bring up the one point I forgot to mention after I mentioned like 6 of them. It just validates my actions towards you even further.
Also, you're right about the neg. I removed it since you can't do it back.
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28 November, 2024 - 12:43 AM
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I have no reason to say it doesn't work if it does. I obviously work with paypal myself but there's some things that you claim to do that I find interesting and I had to ask questions to validate if this is actually a method or a one off situation you got lucky with and decided you could make money trying to sell without actually testing further, it could also just be bold claims that turn out out to be bogus. I have valid reason to be skeptical and above all you refuse MM which can be understood in some situations but this really doesn't seem like one, you make money trading and doing other stuff so you don't need the money to survive and can as well wait for an interested party to actually pay and confirm your shit works. The fact I'm going back and forth with you about this shows why my vouch would be valid, there's no one better suited to confirming to people that they should be on this if it's the case and I will give an unbiased opinion on who it's for and what it requires.
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