(15 February, 2021 - 12:11 PM)Teken Wrote: Show More
@colan0 any proof that he ghosted you? @Beds why would u ignore your customer?
Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous, but I appreciate the input by @FR13ND5 and hope it helps the outcome of this report. But I just can't help myself to break down his reply. So firstly the facts all are over the place, I was not banned on Nulled.to instead I was banned on Cracked.to for 2 weeks, and not for scamming anyone or taking anyone money, neither for any malicious activity, but instead the ban was handed out by @KSZ and for "sketchy dealing". Not a single penny was sent to me by @FR13ND5 now that's set straight and can be confirmed by @KSZ I also did not pester any staff regarding my 2-week ban as it was temporary nor was I told to pay anything back to anyone as I didn't receive any funds from anyone in the first place, and nor was I told to pay any compensation. Moving on "No refunding service asks money for ftid upfront. If 60 was so low for you, you would have paid it by yourself." Right... giving input without reading or even knowing what's happened. 60 Euro is the refund fee you muppet, 20 Euro is the FTID fee that was charged by us. On top of that its our service run by us, we can choose to require FTID fee upfront if we want to, on top of that we can charge 50% fee instead of the normal going rate which is 10-15% if we want as long as we make that clear to the client beforehand and they are fine with it. You cannot claim "scam" and back it with "no refunding service asks money for ftid upfront" alright, first of all, you're saying you know "every" refunding service out there and know that they don't charge for FTID upfront, fine how about this I'll agree to that, yeah they don't. So what? Did we not tell the client about the FTID fee beforehand and did they not agree to it and pay us that fee? If they thought it was unfair and uncalled for then they shouldn't have paid it and should have gotten support from staff as they were given wrong information. But none of that happened as the client was informed of the FTID fee and they can choose to proceed with it if they want to. You're talking out of emotion just because you're annoyed that we refused to work on your order because you used a reship and the Amazon account was cracked. Yes, we could of handled it better and for that "sketchy dealing" we were indeed banned for 2 weeks, accepted it and moved on. But this is for the staff to judge as clearly from your reply you've gotten the context wrong as well for the 60 Euro... On top of that staff aren't going to ban someone because you're holding a grudge and are talking out of emotion. I could do the same to plaster you as a retard who's got no rep and in fact, has a negative reputation from multiple people on this forum: @FR13ND5One of your +reps claims to be "fixing" your rep... Really but at the same time me doing this and showing this and shaming you doesn't do anything for me as once again the staff isn't going to go off of past occurrences or other people's thoughts they are going to look at the facts, the evidence, the proof and then make a decision. So thank you again for your input but -4 Rep at least with your -6 rep that you've left me with the comment "scammer", I am still at +24. Along with having more vouches. But once again pointless shaming, but if you start poor behaviour like this then be ready for whatever comes at you.
We didn't reply to him and others around that time due to Christmas Holidays and New Years, we didn't do any refunds or provide our service to anyone for over a month and to make things easier so that we don't need to tell each individual client who's in our DMS we set our status as "away - for holidays" in our Telegram group that is given to everyone who does business with us as we post updates within that group. Yes, the holidays were longer than usual Christmas or New Years Holidays but it's not as if we didn't inform our client base via any means our Group is on the thread, it is also given to everyone who does business with us. A group is to post updates efficiently and easily. We've done our part, and the theory that we "scammed" for the refund fee is just a theory as we only took the refund fee after he received refund confirmation... We cannot predict the future, and in that aspect, we're the same as any other refunding service that says "you pay fee after refund confirmation" NOT "you pay the fee after you receive the refund in your bank account".
1: Away for Holidays - the status update was posted in the Telegram Group
2: Refund fee was paid after refund confirmation
3: He was told not to interfere with the refund himself
4: He states that Amazon has now started a Police investigation, even though when we last touched the account or the order, the last thing he got is a refund confirmation from Amazon and then them informing him after 1-2 weeks that the refund is cancelled and they want to wait for the package to arrive and once they confirm that they will process another refund. So at that time, Amazon was only waiting for the package to arrive. This "police investigation" is something new that's brought forward so like I said its only fair that we're allowed to check that this person hasn't interfered with the order themselves as apparently to them the refund didn't fail but instead the "ftid" wasn't completed... So we just want to confirm that they haven't interfered with the refund process. As if they haven't and we just failed the refund then we will happily pay the 60 Euros and actually, we will also pay the FTID fee back for 20 Euros which we don't need to as its a one-time payment and its within the "risk" if the refund fails then you don't get the FTID fee back. But why not! We will pay you 80 Euros as compensation.
We can also advise you to return the item as that's a feasible thing to do if you want your money back, but if I remember correctly you sold the item already so that should have gotten you your funds back when it comes to the item itself and its cost.
Please do correct me if I am wrong with any of the facts I've stated.
This post is by a banned member (Morgan_eth) - Unhide
We didn't reply to him and others around that time due to Christmas Holidays and New Years, we didn't do any refunds or provide our service to anyone for over a month and to make things easier so that we don't need to tell each individual client who's in our DMS we set our status as "away - for holidays" in our Telegram group that is given to everyone who does business with us as we post updates within that group. Yes, the holidays were longer than usual Christmas or New Years Holidays but it's not as if we didn't inform our client base via any means our Group is on the thread, it is also given to everyone who does business with us. A group is to post updates efficiently and easily. We've done our part, and the theory that we "scammed" for the refund fee is just a theory as we only took the refund fee after he received refund confirmation... We cannot predict the future, and in that aspect, we're the same as any other refunding service that says "you pay fee after refund confirmation" NOT "you pay the fee after you receive the refund in your bank account".
1: Away for Holidays - the status update was posted in the Telegram Group
2: Refund fee was paid after refund confirmation
3: He was told not to interfere with the refund himself
4: He states that Amazon has now started a Police investigation, even though when we last touched the account or the order, the last thing he got is a refund confirmation from Amazon and then them informing him after 1-2 weeks that the refund is cancelled and they want to wait for the package to arrive and once they confirm that they will process another refund. So at that time, Amazon was only waiting for the package to arrive. This "police investigation" is something new that's brought forward so like I said its only fair that we're allowed to check that this person hasn't interfered with the order themselves as apparently to them the refund didn't fail but instead the "ftid" wasn't completed... So we just want to confirm that they haven't interfered with the refund process. As if they haven't and we just failed the refund then we will happily pay the 60 Euros and actually, we will also pay the FTID fee back for 20 Euros which we don't need to as its a one-time payment and its within the "risk" if the refund fails then you don't get the FTID fee back. But why not! We will pay you 80 Euros as compensation.
We can also advise you to return the item as that's a feasible thing to do if you want your money back, but if I remember correctly you sold the item already so that should have gotten you your funds back when it comes to the item itself and its cost.
Please do correct me if I am wrong with any of the facts I've stated.
It does not explain why you did not reply to me.
I messaged you when your Telegram status said "Last seen x minutes ago".
The only way to contact you was through this scam report. You DID ghost me, don't look for excuses. It's been 2 months buddy.
At this point I am not going to give you access to my Amazon account. I do not trust you, and I am afraid you would harm me in revenge.
We didn't reply to him and others around that time due to Christmas Holidays and New Years, we didn't do any refunds or provide our service to anyone for over a month and to make things easier so that we don't need to tell each individual client who's in our DMS we set our status as "away - for holidays" in our Telegram group that is given to everyone who does business with us as we post updates within that group. Yes, the holidays were longer than usual Christmas or New Years Holidays but it's not as if we didn't inform our client base via any means our Group is on the thread, it is also given to everyone who does business with us. A group is to post updates efficiently and easily. We've done our part, and the theory that we "scammed" for the refund fee is just a theory as we only took the refund fee after he received refund confirmation... We cannot predict the future, and in that aspect, we're the same as any other refunding service that says "you pay fee after refund confirmation" NOT "you pay the fee after you receive the refund in your bank account".
1: Away for Holidays - the status update was posted in the Telegram Group
2: Refund fee was paid after refund confirmation
3: He was told not to interfere with the refund himself
4: He states that Amazon has now started a Police investigation, even though when we last touched the account or the order, the last thing he got is a refund confirmation from Amazon and then them informing him after 1-2 weeks that the refund is cancelled and they want to wait for the package to arrive and once they confirm that they will process another refund. So at that time, Amazon was only waiting for the package to arrive. This "police investigation" is something new that's brought forward so like I said its only fair that we're allowed to check that this person hasn't interfered with the order themselves as apparently to them the refund didn't fail but instead the "ftid" wasn't completed... So we just want to confirm that they haven't interfered with the refund process. As if they haven't and we just failed the refund then we will happily pay the 60 Euros and actually, we will also pay the FTID fee back for 20 Euros which we don't need to as its a one-time payment and its within the "risk" if the refund fails then you don't get the FTID fee back. But why not! We will pay you 80 Euros as compensation.
We can also advise you to return the item as that's a feasible thing to do if you want your money back, but if I remember correctly you sold the item already so that should have gotten you your funds back when it comes to the item itself and its cost.
Please do correct me if I am wrong with any of the facts I've stated.
It does not explain why you did not reply to me.
I messaged you when your Telegram status said "Last seen x minutes ago".
The only way to contact you was through this scam report. You DID ghost me, don't look for excuses. It's been 2 months buddy.
At this point I am not going to give you access to my Amazon account. I do not trust you, and I am afraid you would harm me in revenge.
"Last seen x minutes ago" doesn't mean we are online to check every dm and reply to people. We posted an announcement in the Telegram group that is enough for customers, its either we reply to all customers or to no customers within that time frame, we can't treat you especially even if you spam or act in whatever way, because then others would expect the same and it would be unfair. You're using ridiculous arguments to back your claim "Last seen x minutes ago" proves you were ghosting me... Yeah, buddy and the other 100 DMs we have, ridiculous statements.
You're scared that we will do something to you by logging into your Amazon account?
Here is some advice:
1# Remove any payment method linked to the account
2# Change password
3# Enable 2FA
Sorted.
Now if you're afraid we will do something in relation to report you to Amazon etc then just to let you know, you filled out a form with all your personal details that we have, so if we wanted to report you to your local authorities or Amazon we would be able to do that regardless of having access to your Amazon account. I see no reason to why you wouldn't give access to your Amazon account as its a FRESH Amazon account and there is screenshot evidence provided below from the form you submitted to us and we've blurred out your address and personal info apart from the Telegram username.
May I ask why you gave us another cracked profile within the refund submission form? here is the screenshot: @Teken @digitalle is this your second or first account? And why didn't you open the scam report with it on Cracked.to? Did you purposely give us the wrong or your second c.to acc or? Well anyway, that's not for us to look at. Anyway if you're still not comfortable to give us access for whatever magical reason you have in your mind... Then we can do it with some authority like staff or even a MM really I'm not too sure how that's going to work but just so you know I am down for that, it's reasonable I've agreed to compensate you by 80 Euros.
(15 February, 2021 - 04:58 PM)FR13ND5 Wrote: Show More
I know I shouldn't post here but @Beds is scammer, he was banned already for 2 weeks for same shit. No refunding service asks money for ftid upfront. If 60 was so low for you, you would have paid it by yourself. He fucked up 2 of my refunds and photoshopped our conversation to Lucas on nulled and was permanently banned there for that. Once again I am sorry to post here but @Teken I think you should know this. Thank you.
As a firm believer in feminism and being bisexual myself, I'd like some justice here:
I don't believe @FR13ND5 is directly involved with this report or the transactions/deals/disputes...
@Teken
Sorry to bring it up It may just be that action has already been taken against this individual and I don't know about it but I'd still like to put it out there as I didn't mention this.
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I see no reason to give you access to my Amazon account, as I am no longer asking you to finish the refund.
The thing you want to "check" can be checked by anyone, not necessarily you, the man I am accusing of stealing from me.
However, I still believe there is nothing to check there. You failed the refund, took money for it and then ignored my messages. That's all. I did not fail it myself, I did nothing you didn't ask me to do.
Despite writing such long replies, I think you still did not explain your own behavior, but that's for Staff to judge.
(15 February, 2021 - 10:39 PM)colan0 Wrote: Show More
I see no reason to give you access to my Amazon account, as I am no longer asking you to finish the refund.
The thing you want to "check" can be checked by anyone, not necessarily you, the man I am accusing of stealing from me.
However, I still believe there is nothing to check there. You failed the refund, took money for it and then ignored my messages. That's all. I did not fail it myself, I did nothing you didn't ask me to do.
Despite writing such long replies, I think you still did not explain your own behavior, but that's for Staff to judge.
The replies are long because within your short replies you are unable to fully cover what you're talking about and the details, I've left no stone unturned. I've already agreed to fully compensate you for the Refund fee and the FTID even though the FTID is non-refundable as its a part of the "risk" which was explained beforehand, but the refund fee is your right to have and be compensated for. All of this is reasonable, and once again I asked you to correct me if any of the facts I've given are wrong, you haven't done that because you're unable to, instead, you're sticking to your grounds with "I don't want to give access to my Amazon account" for whatever reason before it was "I am scared you might do something in revenge" now its "as I am no longer asking you to finish the refund" Choose something and stick to it. we are not asking for access to your Amazon account so that we can finish the refund, we are asking for access so that it can be made sure that you haven't interfered with anything yourself. And if you haven't interfered with the refund process then we are the ones to blame and we will be the ones to fully compensate you, as I'm sure that's why you've left your Wallet address and have asked for a refund, so in order for us to be reasonable and refund you the full amount for the fee and out of kindness you can also have the 20 Euro FTID fee, you need to also be reasonable and give someone access to your Amazon account that the order is on, so that we can check if any interference has been made by your part or anyone you may have instructed to interfere with it. In this manner, we are both being reasonable. And it leads us to a resolution.
You wanted compensation, you wanted answers, you're getting it all, but this isn't just one-way compliance, do you want us to just take your word for it and comply with whatever you are asking for. We've already offered compensation, and have been reasonable, along with explaining why we didn't respond to YOU and OTHERS everyone is treated the same. No special treatment for any individual no matter what. I'll happily respond to any other questions anyone has and good luck to you now it's up to staff to judge.
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