Screenshots of Communication: There's too much conversation between me and Debugger, it would take too long to screenshot everything. If any Admin would like to see the entire conversation, I have recorded it and can send over a video to you.
Here's atleast a screenshot showing I paid him: https://prnt.sc/TqyKzJpONDOX , https://prnt.sc/78wmuA07yffm
Because of only the SE working (very basic SE), and nothing else (double/triple dip or unlimited drop addresses) working, I questioned his methods and we had a pretty long discussion about it.
The methods which does not work to me is just stupid. I have been doing SE for quite few years now, and the double dip / unlimited drop addresses method to me is just crazy, I can't see how it would ever work. It's just completely stupid.
Either way, it's his mentorship, so I tried the methods - and of course they failed.
Debugger ended up offering a refund (we agreed on 80%) to me if we tried them again and they would fail yet again. I agreed to this, not knowing UE support has been completely fucked and barely responding to anyone now (He knew this at the time he offered the refund deal). I accepted it, and have yet to receive a response from them - So now I just cba to waste any more time, with something I know 100% will fail - I have no issues showing the methods to an admin, as well as public information as to why the methods can't work with they way Debugger say to do them. Maybe there is some way to do it, but that might require an insider or some private method - However this is not something Debugger is offering in his mentoring.
Additional Information: Debugger offering UE Mentorship with triple dips and a method to get unlimited drop addresses - Double+triple dip (neither worked), aswell as the unlimited drop address method is not working (it is based on the same thing as doing a double dip and it does not work, I can show proof of this in private to admin).
Crypto address for a refund: LTC - LVLmDpdMQm81i5LMbjZC54DmpKb8U61u2B
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I would like to start by saying that all of these methods have been tried and marked as working in numerous countries across Europe and America. Secondly, the user refused to provide me access to the email in which he is talking with Ultimate Ears, so I could examine their responses in detail.
The main goal of this MENTORSHIP is to teach people how to successfully SE Ultimate Ears and get free speakers WITHOUT ANY INVESTMENT by providing them 1:1 support and all resources needed. Double dips, Triple dips and unlimited packages per address are just add-ons. Although helpful things which may make process faster and more effective, these add-ons are not the key to success. Triple and double dips methods are add-ons since bad supporters may refuse them. Anyone who has even a passing interest in social engineering knows that anything can go wrong with the bad supporter. Regarding unlimited packages per address method, the user made a mistake that he admitted to today. We misunderstood each other. As I have stated, numerous countries around the world have been tested and none of them has ever failed.
Despite all of that, we were able to get a speaker for the user. He has all of the resources and everything to get more of them without any future investment - I am here to help him about that. There are also many things that we can do as an alternative for unlimited packages per address method which I am keen to share with him.
I suggested that he create a new ticket only to see if the add-ons methods would work, but he haven't received response yet. Saying again, they ARE NOT a key to success. Although the situation with the Ultimate Ears support is currently very bad and NOT in my control - they haven't responded in the past two weeks, but that is a temporary situation. I haven't know that this will happen since everyone did receive responses normally until that.
There is a big difference between selling a methods and a complete mentorship in which I am providing you 1:1 support till we both agree that you are ready to obtain speakers for free yourself and ALL necessary resources to get speakers without any investment
OP17 October, 2022 - 11:39 AM(This post was last modified: 17 October, 2022 - 11:44 AM by taap. Edited 3 times in total.)
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(16 October, 2022 - 08:11 PM)Debugger Wrote: Show More
Hello,
I would like to start by saying that all of these methods have been tried and marked as working in numerous countries across Europe and America. Secondly, the user refused to provide me access to the email in which he is talking with Ultimate Ears, so I could examine their responses in detail.
The main goal of this MENTORSHIP is to teach people how to successfully SE Ultimate Ears and get free speakers WITHOUT ANY INVESTMENT by providing them 1:1 support and all resources needed. Double dips, Triple dips and unlimited packages per address are just add-ons. Although helpful things which may make process faster and more effective, these add-ons are not the key to success. Triple and double dips methods are add-ons since bad supporters may refuse them. Anyone who has even a passing interest in social engineering knows that anything can go wrong with the bad supporter. Regarding unlimited packages per address method, the user made a mistake that he admitted to today. We misunderstood each other. As I have stated, numerous countries around the world have been tested and none of them has ever failed.
Despite all of that, we were able to get a speaker for the user. He has all of the resources and everything to get more of them without any future investment - I am here to help him about that. There are also many things that we can do as an alternative for unlimited packages per address method which I am keen to share with him.
I suggested that he create a new ticket only to see if the add-ons methods would work, but he haven't received response yet. Saying again, they ARE NOT a key to success. Although the situation with the Ultimate Ears support is currently very bad and NOT in my control - they haven't responded in the past two weeks, but that is a temporary situation. I haven't know that this will happen since everyone did receive responses normally until that.
There is a big difference between selling a methods and a complete mentorship in which I am providing you 1:1 support till we both agree that you are ready to obtain speakers for free yourself and ALL necessary resources to get speakers without any investment
"the user refused to provide me access to the email in which he is talking with Ultimate Ears, so I could examine their responses in detail." - This is not entirely true. I didn't refuse him to examine their responses in detail, I just didn't give him email access as I didn't want him to access sensitive information like Full name, address etc.
I understood that he needed to "examine" their responses in detail, that's why I sent him a screenshot of each and every email they sent me.
"Double dips, Triple dips and unlimited packages per address are just add-ons" - Based on your sales thread, these are not "add-ons" that might or might not work. They are being described as working and included as any part of the method. You'd have to be more clear on that in your sales thread.
"Regarding unlimited packages per address method, the user made a mistake that he admitted to today. We misunderstood each other." - I never said anything remotely close to this. I never said that I made a mistake? What are you even talking about?
Because you brought this up, and said that I admitted I made a mistake, I will now need to provide proof that I did not: https://prnt.sc/CJ5Qwckx3M0r
To summarize this. For the double dip, you had to do this. I called up UPS and said "Hello, Im receiving an order from UE and they put the wrong address. Can you change it to the correct one?" - I called UPS 3-4 times saying the same thing, each time they said "We are not able to change the address upon the receivers request. Only the sender can request to change it, please ask the sender to contact us to change it to the correct address".
And upon contacting UE to try and get them to contact UPS to change it, they said they can not do it and that I have to wait until delivery fails and UPS sends it back to them, and then they will process it again to the correct address.
I fully understood what to do here, and there was no mistake from my side. It simply does not work. If needed/Upon request I will provide proof of this.
"Despite all of that, we were able to get a speaker for the user. He has all of the resources and everything to get more of them without any future investment - I am here to help him about that." - Yes we were able to get a speaker, like I mentioned in the dispute. It's all basic SE and nothing private at all, it's all public knowledge and this information can be found "leaked" / "public" here on cracked.to.
The double/triple dip + unlimited address methods would be of interest as this is not basic/public SE information for UE/Logitech.
"There are also many things that we can do as an alternative for unlimited packages per address method which I am keen to share with him."" - This is the first time you've said this. Why would you wait for a deal dispute before saying this here, instead of privately to me?
"There is a big difference between selling a methods and a complete mentorship in which I am providing you 1:1 support till we both agree that you are ready to obtain speakers for free yourself and ALL necessary resources to get speakers without any investment" - You should maybe considering re-writing your sales thread contents.
Your thread states:
"Will be able to get 3 speakers in one SE" https://prnt.sc/J6fsjg3FQfeH - Did not work. Happy to provide proof.
"Works worldwide" - https://prnt.sc/hqPeS-Dsh9KR - Clearly did not work for me, and I'm happy to provide proof of this if needed / requested by you or admin.
"One Address - Unlimited Packages Method Included" - https://prnt.sc/cs8DcqoSW3sv - As this is similar to dip method, which didn't work for me, this also did not work for me. Happy to provide proof of this aswell.
"As I have stated, numerous countries around the world have been tested and none of them has ever failed." - If this is true, I'd like you to provide proof of that. So far, the only person I've seen saying that this works is YOU. No other customer of yours has confirmed this. And I have yet to see any proof to back it up.
17 October, 2022 - 08:28 PM(This post was last modified: 17 October, 2022 - 08:29 PM by Debugger. Edited 1 time in total.)
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First off, whatever the reason, it is unquestionably true that you refused to give me access to your email, and it is entirely my fault that we went on without it.
The Triple dips is shown in the sales thread along with other, let's say details, such as 1:1 mentoring, working worldwide, etc. that are part of the mentorship. Give that I always advertised this mentorship with title like "ULTIMATE EARS MENTORSHIP - FREE SPEAKERS WITHOUT ANY INVESTMENT", which is fully functional, it makes perfect sense that dips are NOT the major method.
You mentioned me the story that you told them. Then I recognized that we had misunderstood and that the story you had told was different from the one I had assumed.
Method and information that I provided to you, answers on all your questions, explanations on all future emails, all of resources that are required can't be considered public or leaked. Take refunding methods as an example. Many of them are being sold on forums, and they all use the same methods to achieve refunds. Should people stop selling their methods? Just methods! Also, saying again, the product I'm selling is more than just a method. Complete mentoring is provided. I have discussed that, so I won't repeat it just for you.
Yes, I mentioned alternatives for the first time. There are two causes for this. The first is that you are the type of person that inverts everything I am trying to say. When you attempted to buy a method and started a ticket in my server, I had my doubts about you. Everything about you may be seen from your reputation ( https://imgur.com/a/nslm3Ip ). The second reason is that we previously decided to test the method for a second time.
(17 October, 2022 - 08:28 PM)Debugger Wrote: Show More
First off, whatever the reason, it is unquestionably true that you refused to give me access to your email, and it is entirely my fault that we went on without it.
The Triple dips is shown in the sales thread along with other, let's say details, such as 1:1 mentoring, working worldwide, etc. that are part of the mentorship. Give that I always advertised this mentorship with title like "ULTIMATE EARS MENTORSHIP - FREE SPEAKERS WITHOUT ANY INVESTMENT", which is fully functional, it makes perfect sense that dips are NOT the major method.
You mentioned me the story that you told them. Then I recognized that we had misunderstood and that the story you had told was different from the one I had assumed.
Method and information that I provided to you, answers on all your questions, explanations on all future emails, all of resources that are required can't be considered public or leaked. Take refunding methods as an example. Many of them are being sold on forums, and they all use the same methods to achieve refunds. Should people stop selling their methods? Just methods! Also, saying again, the product I'm selling is more than just a method. Complete mentoring is provided. I have discussed that, so I won't repeat it just for you.
Yes, I mentioned alternatives for the first time. There are two causes for this. The first is that you are the type of person that inverts everything I am trying to say. When you attempted to buy a method and started a ticket in my server, I had my doubts about you. Everything about you may be seen from your reputation ( https://imgur.com/a/nslm3Ip ). The second reason is that we previously decided to test the method for a second time.
I've receiving negative reps from vendors I deem shady and are suspicious to me. It's not a coincidence that the majority of them are banned for scamming. I guess I was right in the end huh? Even though they gave me negative rep.. No?
My second ticket is still up and running. If @Liars or any other admin decides that another attempt with your methods to achieve double/triple dip is required, then that's where we are at, and the scam report should be open until we get an outcome for the second attempt = Either it succeeds, or fails.
I've already set up a fake name, address and email and send a support request to them. Hopefully this is OK with your alterantive ways for unlimited drop addresses method. If not you should let me know asap so we can change that.
Anyone that can respond and help us out with this report? Been awhile now since it was opened.
UE support responded back to me, and so I thought I could proceed with the 2nd attempt for the speakers using Debuggers methods and mentoring - And if it doesn't work the second time, well then yeah he said himself he will refund me.
But it does not seem like he wants to do this while the scam report is still active - https://prnt.sc/01uM5aBA5MqQ
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