Scam report against MonsterPrograms (150$)

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The buyer contacts me via discord and says that he and his "friend" were interested in the project https://prnt.sc/re0syi
Here I tell him that this is a VB.net application, and he said that he stopped coding in VB.net long ago. https://prnt.sc/re0t7e
Here he says that his friends will help him with the project since they know how to code in VB.net https://prnt.sc/re0tfn
He makes a group with me and his friend https://prnt.sc/re0tsy and I even tell them that it's flagging an experimental check and they were totally fine with it. Before they purchased I event sent a screenshot showing it was flagging this check https://prnt.sc/re0u3v and he agreed to purchase it.
https://prnt.sc/re0ucv I ask my friend to send the source code in the group chat, and after he sends it monster says that "maybe should've sent it in DMS" which he said as a joke and then even said "Nah it's fine" so we proceeded to send the website source in the same group chat
He got what he paid for, and I did not do anything wrong
If this is not scamming, I don't know what is
Simply took all the resources off me and then chargebacks saying I broke 2 agreements

Okay, this is getting ridiculous now. I never said that I had friends who were gonna help me code it in VB.NET. I clearly stated they probably wouldn't be interested. The only friend I had who was interested, was only familiar with C++ to a very basic level.

Regarding your second point, I added my friend to the group so he could join a screenshare call, where your friend would show us the autoclicker in action, and it bypassing Paladin. And my friend also wanted to ask you a few questions about the autoclicker. My friend was not going to work on the autoclicker with me  but he was going to simply make sure that this autoclicker was worth the purchase, and would help improve my general knowledge regarding autoclickers. I agreed to purchase it despite the "Out of instance" experimental check because I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt since you are known to be a trusted seller.

When your friend sent the source in the group chat, to be honest, I couldn't really have said anything apart from "Nah it's fine" because the source code had already been downloaded by my friend. I had to simply brush it off. I didn't want to immediately start an argument about it as I had literally just purchased at that time.

I did not get the product that I paid for if you sent it to two people instead of one person like we agreed. I'm not scamming, but I feel like I have been lied to, then I always have full rights to make a dispute.

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The buyer contacts me via discord and says that he and his "friend" were interested in the project https://prnt.sc/re0syi
Here I tell him that this is a VB.net application, and he said that he stopped coding in VB.net long ago. https://prnt.sc/re0t7e
Here he says that his friends will help him with the project since they know how to code in VB.net https://prnt.sc/re0tfn
He makes a group with me and his friend https://prnt.sc/re0tsy and I even tell them that it's flagging an experimental check and they were totally fine with it. Before they purchased I event sent a screenshot showing it was flagging this check https://prnt.sc/re0u3v and he agreed to purchase it.
https://prnt.sc/re0ucv I ask my friend to send the source code in the group chat, and after he sends it monster says that "maybe should've sent it in DMS" which he said as a joke and then even said "Nah it's fine" so we proceeded to send the website source in the same group chat
He got what he paid for, and I did not do anything wrong
If this is not scamming, I don't know what is
Simply took all the resources off me and then chargebacks saying I broke 2 agreements

Okay, this is getting ridiculous now. I never said that I had friends who were gonna help me code it in VB.NET. I clearly stated they probably wouldn't be interested. The only friend I had who was interested, was only familiar with C++ to a very basic level.

Regarding your second point, I added my friend to the group so he could join a screenshare call, where your friend would show us the autoclicker in action, and it bypassing Paladin. And my friend also wanted to ask you a few questions about the autoclicker. My friend was not going to work on the autoclicker with me  but he was going to simply make sure that this autoclicker was worth the purchase, and would help improve my general knowledge regarding autoclickers. I agreed to purchase it despite the "Out of instance" experimental check because I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt since you are known to be a trusted seller.

When your friend sent the source in the group chat, to be honest, I couldn't really have said anything apart from "Nah it's fine" because the source code had already been downloaded by my friend. I had to simply brush it off. I didn't want to immediately start an argument about it as I had literally just purchased at that time.

I did not get the product that I paid for if you sent it to two people instead of one person like we agreed. I'm not scamming, but I feel like I have been lied to, then I always have full rights to make a dispute.

Still doesn't make any sense to me, you can't just say "Nah its fine" and then open a dispute once you've gotten everything else. I also saw your friend editing that project in visual studio (discord rich presence) and him posting some new updates that he made to it, so I believe you were going to give it to him anyways. And sounds like a good way to trick me, saying you and your "friend" were interested and once I post the source in the group you open a dispute saying I broke an agreement. And you clearly read the part where I asked my friend to send the source and you didn't really say to send it in DM and considering you made that group because you and your "friend" wanted to work on it I dont see any problem in sending it in the group?

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Also, source code was the first thing I sent, and if you're bringing this "agreement" in every reply, you would've bought it up when we were actually dealing rather than waiting for me to send the old versions as well as the website source, transferring the discord ownership and the domain itself. You're clearly trying to rip me off my money

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If you would've said that you had a problem with me sending the source in the group chat, we could've thought of something at that time and could've resolved it ourselves. You can't just make me send everything and then pretend that I broke agreements. You're making yourself sound like the good guy here, but if you had a problem with it, you would've talked about it then and there instead of saying "Nah its fine"

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The buyer contacts me via discord and says that he and his "friend" were interested in the project https://prnt.sc/re0syi
Here I tell him that this is a VB.net application, and he said that he stopped coding in VB.net long ago. https://prnt.sc/re0t7e
Here he says that his friends will help him with the project since they know how to code in VB.net https://prnt.sc/re0tfn
He makes a group with me and his friend https://prnt.sc/re0tsy and I even tell them that it's flagging an experimental check and they were totally fine with it. Before they purchased I event sent a screenshot showing it was flagging this check https://prnt.sc/re0u3v and he agreed to purchase it.
https://prnt.sc/re0ucv I ask my friend to send the source code in the group chat, and after he sends it monster says that "maybe should've sent it in DMS" which he said as a joke and then even said "Nah it's fine" so we proceeded to send the website source in the same group chat
He got what he paid for, and I did not do anything wrong
If this is not scamming, I don't know what is
Simply took all the resources off me and then chargebacks saying I broke 2 agreements

Okay, this is getting ridiculous now. I never said that I had friends who were gonna help me code it in VB.NET. I clearly stated they probably wouldn't be interested. The only friend I had who was interested, was only familiar with C++ to a very basic level.

Regarding your second point, I added my friend to the group so he could join a screenshare call, where your friend would show us the autoclicker in action, and it bypassing Paladin. And my friend also wanted to ask you a few questions about the autoclicker. My friend was not going to work on the autoclicker with me  but he was going to simply make sure that this autoclicker was worth the purchase, and would help improve my general knowledge regarding autoclickers. I agreed to purchase it despite the "Out of instance" experimental check because I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt since you are known to be a trusted seller.

When your friend sent the source in the group chat, to be honest, I couldn't really have said anything apart from "Nah it's fine" because the source code had already been downloaded by my friend. I had to simply brush it off. I didn't want to immediately start an argument about it as I had literally just purchased at that time.

I did not get the product that I paid for if you sent it to two people instead of one person like we agreed. I'm not scamming, but I feel like I have been lied to, then I always have full rights to make a dispute.

Still doesn't make any sense to me, you can't just say "Nah its fine" and then open a dispute once you've gotten everything else. I also saw your friend editing that project in visual studio (discord rich presence) and him posting some new updates that he made to it, so I believe you were going to give it to him anyways. And sounds like a good way to trick me, saying you and your "friend" were interested and once I post the source in the group you open a dispute saying I broke an agreement. And you clearly read the part where I asked my friend to send the source and you didn't really say to send it in DM and considering you made that group because you and your "friend" wanted to work on it I dont see any problem in sending it in the group?

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Also, source code was the first thing I sent, and if you're bringing this "agreement" in every reply, you would've bought it up when we were actually dealing rather than waiting for me to send the old versions as well as the website source, transferring the discord ownership and the domain itself. You're clearly trying to rip me off my money

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If you would've said that you had a problem with me sending the source in the group chat, we could've thought of something at that time and could've resolved it ourselves. You can't just make me send everything and then pretend that I broke agreements. You're making yourself sound like the good guy here, but if you had a problem with it, you would've talked about it then and there instead of saying "Nah its fine"

That group was made so he could join the screenshare call where your friend would show the autoclicker in action, and it bypassing Paladin. And he also wanted to ask you some questions to make sure it was worth the purchase and that I didn't get scammed. It feels like I'm repeating myself here because you keep bringing up the same points and I have to keep explaining the same point.

I didn't want to complain about the broken agreement after the source was sent because I already told you I felt like I had to brush it off as I had literally just sent the money. I already explained this to you, once again. Maybe I should have complained about it at the time but I had literally just sent the payment and wasn't really thinking properly at the time. We still agreed that the source would only be sent to one person, and that agreement was evidently broken. I didn't feel like I had to remind you about the agreement before your friend sent the source. I was also caught kinda off guard that you didn't have access to the source, you literally had to ask your friend to send the source. A lot of things were running through my head and I just wanted to focus on getting everything I had paid for.

Regarding my friend 'editing' the project, that was so he could compile it because the self-destruct feature basically overwrites the file. Once again, that project is in VB.NET, and I already explained to you he can't code in VB.NET or C#. Yet you still assume that he knew VB.NET, I told you before the payment about my friend only knowing C++ at a very basic level and have explained it numerous times already. Also why would I apparently send the source to him if he can't even code in VB.NET and why is that important anyways? Also I was the one who made changes, and I sent screenshots of these changes to him which he posted in the discord server --> https://gyazo.com/a989e3472b7c5e977ab66cd0da695bef and https://gyazo.com/d7222e5e03753172461b525d19a3e700 and https://gyazo.com/33e7ad23d91936ab9b08ea2d81d61df4

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@Darkness you decide please idk what he's trying to prove but it's not fair on my end

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Yo, this is disbanded, I don't even have vb installed firstly, this is a new pc and I only have c++ installation shit and thats it, your such a bullshitter, you try changing the subjects/twisting it to things you know your in the wrong in, such as everything, look at the beginning, where did i say in the first part I knew vb??? lmfao???

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just because you got more rep doesn't mean your in the right buddy, your literally full on bullshitting because all points monster have said are proven correct, you have 0 proof of anything you have and 0 to back it up lmfao

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your talking about shit that also doesn't matter, it doesn't even bypass paladin firstly, even look on my PC.
https://gyazo.com/b2e93e9d8b6c43633388cbedb25f8324

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Yo, this is disbanded, I don't even have vb installed firstly, this is a new pc and I only have c++ installation shit and thats it, your such a bullshitter, you try changing the subjects/twisting it to things you know your in the wrong in, such as everything, look at the beginning, where did i say in the first part I knew vb??? lmfao???

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just because you got more rep doesn't mean your in the right buddy, your literally full on bullshitting because all points monster have said are proven correct, you have 0 proof of anything you have and 0 to back it up lmfao

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your talking about shit that also doesn't matter, it doesn't even bypass paladin firstly, even look on my PC.
https://gyazo.com/b2e93e9d8b6c43633388cbedb25f8324

fuck off already
i showed you its flagging an out of instance check before you even bought it and you're allied with him ofc you're gonna take his side

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Yo, this is disbanded, I don't even have vb installed firstly, this is a new pc and I only have c++ installation shit and thats it, your such a bullshitter, you try changing the subjects/twisting it to things you know your in the wrong in, such as everything, look at the beginning, where did i say in the first part I knew vb??? lmfao???

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just because you got more rep doesn't mean your in the right buddy, your literally full on bullshitting because all points monster have said are proven correct, you have 0 proof of anything you have and 0 to back it up lmfao

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your talking about shit that also doesn't matter, it doesn't even bypass paladin firstly, even look on my PC.
https://gyazo.com/b2e93e9d8b6c43633388cbedb25f8324

fuck off already
i showed you its flagging an out of instance check before you even bought it and you're allied with him ofc you're gonna take his side

https://gyazo.com/30503cefba95ba608913770a9dba3231

You said here it's not related to the autoclicker, but it clearly is looking at the evidence my friend has provided. Seems like you're a little bit mad as well 

Detected autoclicker when my friend scanned it as you can see: https://gyazo.com/9537cbc2c28de225e4037d979351dbda

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Yo, this is disbanded, I don't even have vb installed firstly, this is a new pc and I only have c++ installation shit and thats it, your such a bullshitter, you try changing the subjects/twisting it to things you know your in the wrong in, such as everything, look at the beginning, where did i say in the first part I knew vb??? lmfao???

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just because you got more rep doesn't mean your in the right buddy, your literally full on bullshitting because all points monster have said are proven correct, you have 0 proof of anything you have and 0 to back it up lmfao

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your talking about shit that also doesn't matter, it doesn't even bypass paladin firstly, even look on my PC.
https://gyazo.com/b2e93e9d8b6c43633388cbedb25f8324

fuck off already
i showed you its flagging an out of instance check before you even bought it and you're allied with him ofc you're gonna take his side

https://gyazo.com/30503cefba95ba608913770a9dba3231

You said here it's not related to the autoclicker, but it clearly is looking at the evidence my friend has provided. Seems like you're a little bit mad as well 

Detected autoclicker when my friend scanned it as you can see: https://gyazo.com/9537cbc2c28de225e4037d979351dbda

First of all, as you can read it is an "experimental" check after all, and there can be multiple false positives. The clicker is also being detected as "Out of instance", means you can't really prove that it was being used in that specific instance of Minecraft. Is this not good enough of a bypass? Paladin has multiple detection methods, including strings and some applications, generate strings which are very similar to that of auto clickers, so there are a lot of chances of false positives. You can't really rely on such detections, and no server would ban for it, so I would still say it is bypassing. Other than that, windows itself stores a lot of information which is impossible to delete but can be read, so it is not difficult to get such information.

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Other than that, contacting an owner of Paladin is the worst decision you could have made because he can now easily decompile the application and you've made it ten times easier for him to detect such clickers...