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Scam Report Against Kopiko & Liars

by whyxo - 17 February, 2022 - 05:05 PM
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(This post was last modified: 17 February, 2022 - 05:32 PM by whyxo. Edited 2 times in total.)
Scammers Profile Link: Kopiko - https://cracked.io/kopiko2137, Liars - https://cracked.io/Liars
Sales Thread: NA [Sold config via Telegram]
Amount or Item(s) Scammed: $300
Screenshots of Communication: my inglise not ok but sold a config to kopiko, Liars was MM, kopiko sent $$ to Liars and i sent 2 config to kopiko, after 15 mins  kopiko claimed he already had 1 of the config i sent him from his friend on discord who resold him via DMs a week ago, thats not my fault he already had my config from someone else , so i asked him why repurchase same shit again when already had it? says config locks the account which was his proxies issue not config, proof was given that config works without lock and i told him my proxy site all details etc, Liars says config is public which isn't public he sent ss of someone sending it to him via discord DMs, i dont see my config leaked on any forums etc, i sold what works and what deal was for but Liars issued refund to kopiko in rush.
Additional Information: if need screenshot of convo on tele let me know
Crypto address for a refund: when needed inform

again my inglise is not guud am russia if you don't understand whats written i hire translator
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My 2 cents as an experienced MM.

If the buyer already had the same config and he got it before the transaction, and can prove he had it from before the transaction took place, there is NO reason for liars to pay you. The buyer already had that config and he had no reason whatsoever to buy it again. You are implying the customer wanted your config for free but it doesn’t make sense that he would risk losing 300$ for something he already had and would leave it up to liars to decide. Liars could have decided to pay you anyway and he would have lost 300$.

Liars made the right call in refunding the buyer as he already had that config before your transaction took place.

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LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs
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(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

It does matter. He didn't buy it, he had received it for free. And the fact of the matter is, he had the same config you provided before you even made a deal. This is a clear and good enough reason for the middleman (ANY) to decide in favor of the buyer and provide the refund. If the buyer already had the config he had no reason to risk his money to buy it again. This is illogical and evidently a pointless risk nobody would choose to take. 

As for your deal, being about 2 PP configs. Maybe provide evidence that the deal was about 2 different PP configs to begin with? Show agreements that indicate that the buyer wanted the 2nd config, on top of the first, and that the payment was agreed for both configs and not just 1.
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(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

The VM Config was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/55FvqyG. Here is more proof that the VM was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/TM5jrkY. Also, explain this for us https://ibb.co/Dp0Wnc9 clearly the user wanted to buy another config $300 or so. You clearly scammed him. 

Here again https://ibb.co/BGX8XDx you clearly stated some polish guy leaked it. As you can see you are clearly lying about your English as well.

(17 February, 2022 - 06:38 PM)Liars Wrote: Show More
(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

The VM Config was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/55FvqyG. Here is more proof that the VM was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/TM5jrkY. Also, explain this for us https://ibb.co/Dp0Wnc9 clearly the user wanted to buy another config $300 or so. You clearly scammed him. 

Here again https://ibb.co/BGX8XDx you clearly stated some polish guy leaked it. As you can see you are clearly lying about your English as well.

Quick update to this, The user has now given the config to him https://ibb.co/kmx5qLg. However, I still think it is bit suspicious that he was going to scam him. Top of that, he truly cares so much asking @Kopiko why he gave me screenshots about their chat https://ibb.co/C2CmRbd
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(This post was last modified: 17 February, 2022 - 10:49 PM by whyxo. Edited 2 times in total.)
(17 February, 2022 - 06:11 PM)Lucas Wrote: Show More
(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

It does matter. He didn't buy it, he had received it for free. And the fact of the matter is, he had the same config you provided before you even made a deal. This is a clear and good enough reason for the middleman (ANY) to decide in favor of the buyer and provide the refund. If the buyer already had the config he had no reason to risk his money to buy it again. This is illogical and evidently a pointless risk nobody would choose to take. 

As for your deal, being about 2 PP configs. Maybe provide evidence that the deal was about 2 different PP configs to begin with? Show agreements that indicate that the buyer wanted the 2nd config, on top of the first, and that the payment was agreed for both configs and not just 1.

i told him that it comes with 2 configs first is VM other is capture , he didn;t say anywhere he doesnt want VM doe and some dumbfk from discord i sold config to resold to someone and then sent the config to him who knows not valid reason to get config with some changes on it but its not leaked anywhere he received it from someone directly thru DMs

(17 February, 2022 - 06:38 PM)Liars Wrote: Show More
(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

The VM Config was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/55FvqyG. Here is more proof that the VM was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/TM5jrkY. Also, explain this for us https://ibb.co/Dp0Wnc9 clearly the user wanted to buy another config $300 or so. You clearly scammed him. 

Here again https://ibb.co/BGX8XDx you clearly stated some polish guy leaked it. As you can see you are clearly lying about your English as well.

(17 February, 2022 - 06:38 PM)Liars Wrote: Show More
(17 February, 2022 - 05:44 PM)whyxo Wrote: Show More
LOL not say customer wanted free shit but you sell a config what matters is that it works not my fault he bought it off reseller already and was confused config not work due to proxies? i sent him what he asked for and provide proof it works?
he even sent the config to Liar's for crosscheck and he already had 1 config from reseller not both i sent 2 configs

The VM Config was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/55FvqyG. Here is more proof that the VM was not apart of the deal https://ibb.co/TM5jrkY. Also, explain this for us https://ibb.co/Dp0Wnc9 clearly the user wanted to buy another config $300 or so. You clearly scammed him. 

Here again https://ibb.co/BGX8XDx you clearly stated some polish guy leaked it. As you can see you are clearly lying about your English as well.

Quick update to this, The user has now given the config to him https://ibb.co/kmx5qLg. However, I still think it is bit suspicious that he was going to scam him. Top of that, he truly cares so much asking @Kopiko why he gave me screenshots about their chat https://ibb.co/C2CmRbd
you're talkin about 3rd config here, which he paid for and he received it already config works proof was given there's no scam on it ask him yourself. and yea i asked to remove that name for privacy of individual. but dont matter and when i said some polish guy leaked it i meant someone leaked it to his DMs not in public discord servers etc, and yea i dont see point of kopiko sending you ss when he clearly can post ss himself if he wants to../

Proof 3rd config works - https://i.imgur.com/7laVvRk.png
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The deal was about 1 config, the config in question was a public config, buyer already had that exact config leaked to him, hence you were selling him a config that was already public. Hence, a refund from liars was justified.

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