Scammers Profile Link: EnigmaRef
Sales Thread: No sales thread cuz I sold project to him [Bad.fo]
Amount or Item(s) Scammed: 1000$
Screenshots of Communication: https://prnt.sc/d4Pa_tcz2oz3
Additional Information: He denies to answer to my dm's, he has to pay 1k every month from revenue with deal, @HomesickForUs can confirm that, but he does not reply to my dms now.
Crypto address for a refund: bc1q09zsgz5yjj9cnk0xsx8fh92v8g75crqz5kvaum
@EnigmaRef reply within 24 hours.
This scam report per requested by @Badass will be marked as closed. It will be re-open when @Badass says and when OP is back.
Hi, I was in the process of writing up a scam report on @Badass myself, so this is much easier. I'd like to preface this as I sent all the necessary proof to @Liars just over a week ago to go with this report.
I purchased https://bad.fo from badass a couple months back, and during the negotiations I was quick to realise that Badass was very unprofessional so I (thankfully) kept a high alert on what he was doing with the badass channels that I was buying while the money was being held by the MM (@HomesickForUs, in this case)
Before I sent the money to the MM, Badass stated there was 4 channels associated with the site in total, these are: Badass Updates, Vouches, Chat and Drops. Conveniently, he didn't mention that there was a fifth channel, which was Badass MP. https://prnt.sc/twLBmFFOMiPL
Around 10-20 minutes after I send the money to the MM and the funds are secured, Badass goes on an absolute rampage, mass advertising the 'new' badass channel, Badass MP (https://t.me/badassmp) in all 4 of the Badass channels I had just purchased by sending the money to the middleman. Here is the post he made that he also stupidly forwarded to the Yama marketplace: https://prnt.sc/Q5y9BpDfboFe
I was incredibly annoyed, and demanded the Badass MP channel also be transferred to me otherwise the deal is off, Badass agreed. https://prnt.sc/bee1XiQj5jxc
(If there's only one bit of proof you look at, it should be this) Here is Badass also agreeing the Badass brand is mine and he will never open a shop under that brand again: https://prnt.sc/kUjIdr80iwRR
So, the transfer happens, but Badass privates the Badass MP, the rest is transferred and I stupidly think everything has been transferred to me, meanwhile the Badass MP channel is still private and held by Badass. The deal is finished and I continue paying Badass his monthly instalments as promised https://prnt.sc/F2n-u2B7Czdo
Until, on the 19th of September, Badass unprivates the channel and changes the name to 'Badass Logs' (Presently Badass Hub), he might as well have announced he scammed me by hiding the channel and is now selling to my customers: https://prnt.sc/m1C9hmnagXW_
Examples of some of his posts (also sent to Liars at the time): https://prnt.sc/3D5w1Blf9GfF, https://prnt.sc/SF-7ysL65iSF, selling absolute garbage and making a mockery of me and the bad.fo service by soft scamming people with r**ed logs. Have had multiple bulk buyers cut ties with bad.fo because the quality posted on the MP channel was so bad and the bad.fo name has been dragged through the mud. Not to mention the sales he is making from the channel that I now own and 90% of the active bad.fo members joined when he mass posted the link after I bought the shop.
I'm not sure how this can be made right, maybe a % of the money I paid for the shop refunded to me, or I can sell bad.fo back to Badass for the price I paid for it because at this point that channel has left such a stain on the once incredibly trustworthy customer base, to the point where my support team are getting called names and being demanded a refund for sales that @Badass made in the MP channel he hid from me.
(23 October, 2023 - 07:58 PM)EnigmaRef Wrote: Show More
Hi, I was in the process of writing up a scam report on @Badass myself, so this is much easier. I'd like to preface this as I sent all the necessary proof to @Liars just over a week ago to go with this report.
I purchased https://bad.fo from badass a couple months back, and during the negotiations I was quick to realise that Badass was very unprofessional so I (thankfully) kept a high alert on what he was doing with the badass channels that I was buying while the money was being held by the MM (@HomesickForUs, in this case)
Before I sent the money to the MM, Badass stated there was 4 channels associated with the site in total, these are: Badass Updates, Vouches, Chat and Drops. Conveniently, he didn't mention that there was a fifth channel, which was Badass MP. https://prnt.sc/twLBmFFOMiPL
Around 10-20 minutes after I send the money to the MM and the funds are secured, Badass goes on an absolute rampage, mass advertising the 'new' badass channel, Badass MP (https://t.me/badassmp) in all 4 of the Badass channels I had just purchased by sending the money to the middleman. Here is the post he made that he also stupidly forwarded to the Yama marketplace: https://prnt.sc/Q5y9BpDfboFe
I was incredibly annoyed, and demanded the Badass MP channel also be transferred to me otherwise the deal is off, Badass agreed. https://prnt.sc/bee1XiQj5jxc
(If there's only one bit of proof you look at, it should be this) Here is Badass also agreeing the Badass brand is mine and he will never open a shop under that brand again: https://prnt.sc/kUjIdr80iwRR
So, the transfer happens, but Badass privates the Badass MP, the rest is transferred and I stupidly think everything has been transferred to me, meanwhile the Badass MP channel is still private and held by Badass. The deal is finished and I continue paying Badass his monthly instalments as promised https://prnt.sc/F2n-u2B7Czdo
Until, on the 19th of September, Badass unprivates the channel and changes the name to 'Badass Logs' (Presently Badass Hub), he might as well have announced he scammed me by hiding the channel and is now selling to my customers: https://prnt.sc/m1C9hmnagXW_
Examples of some of his posts (also sent to Liars at the time): https://prnt.sc/3D5w1Blf9GfF, https://prnt.sc/SF-7ysL65iSF, selling absolute garbage and making a mockery of me and the bad.fo service by soft scamming people with r**ed logs. Have had multiple bulk buyers cut ties with bad.fo because the quality posted on the MP channel was so bad and the bad.fo name has been dragged through the mud. Not to mention the sales he is making from the channel that I now own and 90% of the active bad.fo members joined when he mass posted the link after I bought the shop.
I'm not sure how this can be made right, maybe a % of the money I paid for the shop refunded to me, or I can sell bad.fo back to Badass for the price I paid for it because at this point that channel has left such a stain on the once incredibly trustworthy customer base, to the point where my support team are getting called names and being demanded a refund for sales that @Badass made in the MP channel he hid from me.
the fuck is this guy yapping about even lmfaoo, he is clearly making up some fucking shits to not pay whatever is leftover lmfaoo
I will break down all why right now:
first of all, https://prnt.sc/RHUu7ZGLj8yr Here is one ALERT That it shows how he Fucking EDITED "Badass branded I want that Included as well"
you knew it's name when you were in process of buying the shop, the main idea of that channel was Marketplace and not me selling logs, but then I changed my mind which Is also my choice, I will do whatever I want in my channel.
you just tryanna grab shit for free mate that won't work.
If you had problem with that, and wanted that channel included with your shits as well https://prnt.sc/bsyy_k6qD1Rk you could have always asked me after this, but you never did.
you just a piece of scammer trying to get shit for free out of me.
If you had problem, instead of waiting me making a scam report you could have always opened that scam report on me instead or just simply dm me about it and we could discuss but it is 10000% clear that you are lying bastard. https://prnt.sc/rhQAXTzhaeZZ
This message also edited, why? Because you are only now making up this stuff in your mind and you need stuff backed up with evidence, but thanks god telegram tells us which message is edited and which not.
you now will say u edited this originally that times, but how come you never edited any other messages then this? clearly, this messages just help your case to steal my channel from me for free.
but anyways, even if it was originally posted that time and u just edited it grammatically, let's say theoretically that's true, BADASS HUB, OR BADASS MP, OR BADASS LOGS IS NOT SHOP DUMBASS, IT IS A PROJECT/CHANNEL, WHICH I OWN, (CLEARLY, BADASS IS MY NAME AND I WILL HAVE UPCOMING PROJECTS WITH THIS NAME)
But if it was issue, U could have always said in my dms or in homesick mm channel, u never said anything about this you just want to attack with some fake ass proofs to keep your money and not pay me the leftover, or steal channel from me, or get refund as u said which is also bullshit, sales were all final and we never agreed on refunds or anything like that.
About this nigga accusing of me selling "Shit and garbage logs" LMFAOOOOOO, please show me at least 1 customer who bought https://prnt.sc/7wKDTGAk8nbO this log for example and complained about it ? because that log was bought by my friend and he never complained it in my dms either way
I only sell now data's and couple time bulk logs, I do not have shop, We never agreed about this channel to be transferred under ur ownership. (Edited fucking messages do not count)
As usual, I'm struggling to piece together what you are saying, but I will give my best attempt at responding to the insults and poor evidence you have just thrown at me.
This 'edited messages' narrative you are trying to push is absolutely absurd. We were in the midst of a 5 figure deal, and unlike you, who has no problem typing with numerous grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, most people notice a spelling error, or when stating the term of a deal, can think 'this could be worded better' and then edit the message.
Take my messages (which are in DMs, and can no longer be edited after 48 hours, see the reference here: https://prnt.sc/jObjWRBysCCY) with Liars when I was providing him all the evidence on you over a week ago, notice how most of the key messages are edited (when I need to add more information to a message but still keep it concise instead of sending a new one) - https://prnt.sc/-QeBNFl-7GWP, https://prnt.sc/UVW3MpDlnNTL
'but how come you never edited any other messages then this?' - Here are some other examples of key points in the deal where I would edit a message to provide more information, or correct a spelling mistake: https://prnt.sc/uFBZmtH4boyL, https://prnt.sc/Ep0SN9FX0fcT, can provide plenty more if needed.
'If you had problem, instead of waiting me making a scam report you could have always opened that scam report on me' - Regarding not posting the report earlier, I actually brought this up to Homesick on the 24th of September, and he advised be to continue building evidence, which I did. You continued posting on the channel, even changed the name to 'Badass Logs', showing your intentions, so I am very glad I waited as I now have as much proof as I need: https://prnt.sc/3pkKdec48rqg
'About this nigga accusing of me selling "Shit and garbage logs" LMFAOOOOOO' - You must be delusional, you can take one look at your channel and see it's reputation and how my customers have voiced their opinion on what you are providing - https://prnt.sc/eX_RTT_XIt3j, https://prnt.sc/DBIFfUkuTNCb
(24 October, 2023 - 09:02 PM)EnigmaRef Wrote: Show More
As usual, I'm struggling to piece together what you are saying, but I will give my best attempt at responding to the insults and poor evidence you have just thrown at me.
This 'edited messages' narrative you are trying to push is absolutely absurd. We were in the midst of a 5 figure deal, and unlike you, who has no problem typing with numerous grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, most people notice a spelling error, or when stating the term of a deal, can think 'this could be worded better' and then edit the message.
Take my messages (which are in DMs, and can no longer be edited after 48 hours, see the reference here: https://prnt.sc/jObjWRBysCCY) with Liars when I was providing him all the evidence on you over a week ago, notice how most of the key messages are edited (when I need to add more information to a message but still keep it concise instead of sending a new one) - https://prnt.sc/-QeBNFl-7GWP, https://prnt.sc/UVW3MpDlnNTL
'but how come you never edited any other messages then this?' - Here are some other examples of key points in the deal where I would edit a message to provide more information, or correct a spelling mistake: https://prnt.sc/uFBZmtH4boyL, https://prnt.sc/Ep0SN9FX0fcT, can provide plenty more if needed.
'If you had problem, instead of waiting me making a scam report you could have always opened that scam report on me' - Regarding not posting the report earlier, I actually brought this up to Homesick on the 24th of September, and he advised be to continue building evidence, which I did. You continued posting on the channel, even changed the name to 'Badass Logs', showing your intentions, so I am very glad I waited as I now have as much proof as I need: https://prnt.sc/3pkKdec48rqg
'About this nigga accusing of me selling "Shit and garbage logs" LMFAOOOOOO' - You must be delusional, you can take one look at your channel and see it's reputation and how my customers have voiced their opinion on what you are providing - https://prnt.sc/eX_RTT_XIt3j, https://prnt.sc/DBIFfUkuTNCb
about grammar LOL, It is not like I can not write it understandable for everyone it is just how stupid this scam report is and I am not wasting so much time on it.
everything is clear, I will more wait for decision of staff instead of reading ur bullshits.
I am not wasting my time correcting all sentences, I am not on English lecture or exam sir.
anyways, the case is easier then you think and making it complicated as fuck: If you had problem (Especially if you wanted me to transfer ownership of that channel) https://prnt.sc/9U3F31zOl-SZ
Here it shows how I am asking you if everything is going well and you say "Going really well, super happy so far" https://prnt.sc/ffh_WEgU90HA more evidence from my side, you said "You need to remove the badass branding etc from your account" which refers to: ME removing bad.fo from my bio and from cracked.to profile as well, you never even once said anything about badass MP.
And as I said, originally, this channel was supposed to be marketplace, that is why it has MP in it's username, I was thinking of opening mp, but then I figured out it is not my job at this point so I changed my mind.
But again, there is no shop related to this channel, there is no accounts sold ( so no one could ever annoy you that I am impersonating, or selling bad stuff and it affects bad.fo shop)
It is all just big bullshit, you clearly know you are in wrong. either way if you thought urself 100% valid, you could have simply asked in dms following questions:
Why are you advertising BADASS MP, (If it was that deadly for you) Maybe I would explain it however it is?
Why are you selling logs? = maybe because we never agreed that I will never sell logs on my own? LOL
Why you have Badass in ur channel's title? = because My nickname is Badass, But again it is just channel name, it has nothing to do with "Bad name bad logs bad anything, related to Bad.fo shop" Since I never sold that many logs, only one time which I sold to my friend, and he never complained either way.
All other sales were data related.
So buddy, u are just making up excuses it is clear, It's just that you do not want to pay leftover money, and this all excuses are kinda shameful ngl.
Even tho if anyone really struggling reading message above, there is alternate and simpler version from chatgpt for yall, but I really cba:
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To simplify the situation: If there was an issue, particularly about transferring ownership of the channel, you should have addressed it directly. Here are two links that support my claim:
Link - This shows a conversation where I inquired about the progress, and you confirmed things were "going really well."
Link - Here, you advised me to dissociate from the "badass branding" on my account. At no point did you mention any issues with "badass MP."
The initial purpose of the channel was to establish a marketplace (hence the 'MP' in its username). However, I changed my direction after realizing that running a marketplace wasn't suitable for me at the time. Importantly, there's no shop affiliated with this channel, and I've never been involved in the sale of any controversial items that could harm the reputation of "bad.fo shop."
Had you had genuine concerns, a direct conversation would have been more appropriate. Questions like:
"Why are you advertising BADASS MP?" - To which I'd explain its original purpose.
"Why are you selling logs?" - The agreement never restricted me from selling logs.
"Why is 'Badass' in your channel's title?" - It's merely a reflection of my nickname and doesn't associate with any products or services.
In conclusion, it appears that the real issue may be your reluctance to settle any outstanding financial obligations. I believe this entire dispute is a diversion from that matter, which is regrettable.
This post is by a banned member (EnigmaRef) - Unhide
'Here it shows how I am asking you if everything is going well and you say "Going really well, super happy so far"' - Clearly you didn't read this part of my original reply: 'So, the transfer happens, but Badass privates the Badass MP, the rest is transferred and I stupidly think everything has been transferred to me, meanwhile the Badass MP channel is still private and held by Badass.' - Of course I say I was happy so far, because I didn't realise you had scammed me by privating the marketplace channel, and I wrongly assumed everything had been transferred to me.
I appreciate you doing the ChatGPT translation! I couldn't find the 'badass' language on google translate when I looked earlier, while trying to decipher the grammar and spelling in your other messages.
'But again, there is no shop related to this channel, there is no accounts sold ' - You have just been caught in another lie, while I was collecting proof I made sure to save screenshots of your posts before you deleted them, here is a screenshot from September 24th of you selling accounts! https://prnt.sc/n9fFoVGORRLJ
This isn't a case of you saying 'if you told me I would have transferred it to you', the damage was already done by you selling crappy stuff for prices much cheaper than bad.fo on a channel you advertised to all the bad.fo members without my permission after I bought the channel. You can tell by the numerous clown emojis on every single post you make on there, the impact that has caused on the bad.fo brand.
I can't strain my eyes any more trying to understand what you are writing so for once I agree, let's let @Liars make his decision on this.
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