19 March, 2022 - 02:02 PM(This post was last modified: 19 March, 2022 - 02:05 PM by ClearInstinct.)
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(19 March, 2022 - 01:46 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 12:41 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 09:00 AM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
We agreed on a IPHM enabled server that would allow abuse.
You gave me a hetzner server and you told me you discussed with them to enable IPHM.
This is a straight up lie, show me the logs where you discussed this with hetzner.
They are one of the biggest hosting companies and are known to not allow abuse and enable IPHM.
After this you told me within 24hours you will get a new server, you ignored me for 48 hours.
When i started putting some pressure on you that was the only time you started replying.
You told me you weren't available because of personal issues while i saw you browsing cracked 24/7.
Then you told me you would refund me and to send my BTC addy.
When i send it you decided you will "hold" the money instead because:
1. Of my insecurities
2. You don't deal with people that play around with your dignity.
You even said it in this reply.
You have been banned on a competing forum 4 times, for scamming and for other reasons.
How many times have i offered you to solve this fairly?
You never had the intention to give me a server or even refund me and you still don't.
And you never had the intention to solve this fairly, how many times did i ask you?
I asked you many many times how would you like to solve this just let me know. You NEVER wanted to solve this but you kept telling me you will "hold" the money. https://prnt.sc/_jmbfW2n5Czy
1. Having the browser open for 24/7 doesn't mean browsing it for 24/7 and I haven't ignored you for 48 hours, I just had personal issues and I haven't received any notifications from Telegram. 2. I am not going to issue a full refund, all you're getting is 25% back because of everything you've done, you can it take it or leave it.. I have all the rights to not provide him back his money and he knows exactly why.
@Liars, no products will be given to him, I am only going to provide 25% back of the money, and read back my initial reply to understand the reason why..
I have literally received nothing. No server and no refund.
And you want to give me back 25% only?
I have paid initially to provide you with the server, I am not going to be able to pay full refund after all the time you wasted, 50% all you're getting or nothing.
@Liars, I have provided a good reason for everything, and I don't see why I should refund this while I am the right person here.
(18 March, 2022 - 07:06 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
I got added on Discord at first with the ID of Woes#3526
We started talking about my services and that he needed an IPHM server, we agreed to a price and I got sent the payment. Later on, I sent him the details of the servers and I actually had load balancing servers to spoof out the address with multiple IP addresses. Unfortunately that did not work as intended and I decided to apologize for my mistake later on and asked him to give me a chance for me to send him a new server with IPHM Enabled, he agreed.
I clearly mentioned that if there are any issues regarding my service, you'll be refunded as it appears here: https://prnt.sc/Va7IICwuQmOG
He contacted me on March 15, "Any updates?" and I wasn't able to respond to that because I had personal reasons as well as I don't receive any notifications from Telegram and I have clearly explained that to him later on https://prnt.sc/GH-S6WDhikyabut he was arrogant towards it and he started -repping me using random supreme accounts which is not allowed here, as a return of a response when I asked him to send me his BTC address and his c.to account few minutes later, he said this: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I gave him an estimation that I'd provide the server within the next 24 hours, and usually it can take longer but I said that it'll take up to 24 hours. We started arguing regarding it and I decided to end the conversation with him to not say anything else that would be out of context because he started threatening and I said that I would like to deal this with the staff members of c.to as shown here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
In anyways, I kept trying to conversate with him to deal with his insecurities, he is afraid of me leaving him on delivered, I decided to continue talking to him and you can check this https://prnt.sc/rciKKqSzW0pH
I mentioned that the money wouldn't be returned until I find a fair deal out of c.to initially by the staff members, Imgur: The magic of the Internet and he tried to ask for a "fair" deal but I declined because 1 - He is insecure, 2 - I don't deal with people that plays around with my dignity.. A continue of the conversations is here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I didn't want to waste any more time and I gave him a plan and told him to be patient: https://prnt.sc/WargEVTjtDQA and there were some important messages there.
I asked here, "Why do you think I am holding the money until now?" and I fr started believing that this person has issues, he doesn't know anything yet he knows how to use a public doxing tool? I mean that's still dumb but anyways, this is the conversation: https://prnt.sc/eAt99k_B2Qyx
This person is just full of disgrace honestly and he doesn't just stop, he likes to keep going with threatening and doxing, I really can't care less but I mentioned why I have a reason to not refund him: https://prnt.sc/axd1pt_f13vn. But otherwise, I've been really nice to him and I have just given him all the patience that I had and that's the end of Telegram conversation here: https://prnt.sc/Ik0mXt7AUR5o.
If you want Discord continuation, I don't mind honestly. But honestly, this isn't acceptable, I understand that failing to deliver services may trigger anger and annoyance, but not to the point where he starts with the -reps, the "I am in contact with the Developer" and the way he also spoke to one of my clients, Grandbam. I mean this conversation is private between me and him and he decided to go to my server and in the public chat calls me a scammer and I actually decided to leave his message there to let the others know of the current situation, but yeah.
This is not done yet, but that's all of what I have to say for now. People who supported me and witnessed me selling them good services, they know that I haven't scammed anybody, and everyone eventually did mistakes, but there are differences in mistakes, and I think what he did doesn't deserve to be refunded and his alt accounts should get banned from c.to.
OP19 March, 2022 - 02:09 PM(This post was last modified: 19 March, 2022 - 02:10 PM by Locked444. Edited 1 time in total.)
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(19 March, 2022 - 02:02 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 01:46 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 12:41 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
1. Having the browser open for 24/7 doesn't mean browsing it for 24/7 and I haven't ignored you for 48 hours, I just had personal issues and I haven't received any notifications from Telegram. 2. I am not going to issue a full refund, all you're getting is 25% back because of everything you've done, you can it take it or leave it.. I have all the rights to not provide him back his money and he knows exactly why.
@Liars, no products will be given to him, I am only going to provide 25% back of the money, and read back my initial reply to understand the reason why..
I have literally received nothing. No server and no refund.
And you want to give me back 25% only?
I have paid initially to provide you with the server, I am not going to be able to pay full refund after all the time you wasted, 50% all you're getting or nothing.
@Liars, I have provided a good reason for everything, and I don't see why I should refund this while I am the right person here.
(18 March, 2022 - 07:06 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
I got added on Discord at first with the ID of Woes#3526
We started talking about my services and that he needed an IPHM server, we agreed to a price and I got sent the payment. Later on, I sent him the details of the servers and I actually had load balancing servers to spoof out the address with multiple IP addresses. Unfortunately that did not work as intended and I decided to apologize for my mistake later on and asked him to give me a chance for me to send him a new server with IPHM Enabled, he agreed.
I clearly mentioned that if there are any issues regarding my service, you'll be refunded as it appears here: https://prnt.sc/Va7IICwuQmOG
He contacted me on March 15, "Any updates?" and I wasn't able to respond to that because I had personal reasons as well as I don't receive any notifications from Telegram and I have clearly explained that to him later on https://prnt.sc/GH-S6WDhikyabut he was arrogant towards it and he started -repping me using random supreme accounts which is not allowed here, as a return of a response when I asked him to send me his BTC address and his c.to account few minutes later, he said this: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I gave him an estimation that I'd provide the server within the next 24 hours, and usually it can take longer but I said that it'll take up to 24 hours. We started arguing regarding it and I decided to end the conversation with him to not say anything else that would be out of context because he started threatening and I said that I would like to deal this with the staff members of c.to as shown here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
In anyways, I kept trying to conversate with him to deal with his insecurities, he is afraid of me leaving him on delivered, I decided to continue talking to him and you can check this https://prnt.sc/rciKKqSzW0pH
I mentioned that the money wouldn't be returned until I find a fair deal out of c.to initially by the staff members, Imgur: The magic of the Internet and he tried to ask for a "fair" deal but I declined because 1 - He is insecure, 2 - I don't deal with people that plays around with my dignity.. A continue of the conversations is here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I didn't want to waste any more time and I gave him a plan and told him to be patient: https://prnt.sc/WargEVTjtDQA and there were some important messages there.
I asked here, "Why do you think I am holding the money until now?" and I fr started believing that this person has issues, he doesn't know anything yet he knows how to use a public doxing tool? I mean that's still dumb but anyways, this is the conversation: https://prnt.sc/eAt99k_B2Qyx
This person is just full of disgrace honestly and he doesn't just stop, he likes to keep going with threatening and doxing, I really can't care less but I mentioned why I have a reason to not refund him: https://prnt.sc/axd1pt_f13vn. But otherwise, I've been really nice to him and I have just given him all the patience that I had and that's the end of Telegram conversation here: https://prnt.sc/Ik0mXt7AUR5o.
If you want Discord continuation, I don't mind honestly. But honestly, this isn't acceptable, I understand that failing to deliver services may trigger anger and annoyance, but not to the point where he starts with the -reps, the "I am in contact with the Developer" and the way he also spoke to one of my clients, Grandbam. I mean this conversation is private between me and him and he decided to go to my server and in the public chat calls me a scammer and I actually decided to leave his message there to let the others know of the current situation, but yeah.
This is not done yet, but that's all of what I have to say for now. People who supported me and witnessed me selling them good services, they know that I haven't scammed anybody, and everyone eventually did mistakes, but there are differences in mistakes, and I think what he did doesn't deserve to be refunded and his alt accounts should get banned from c.to.
19 March, 2022 - 02:14 PM(This post was last modified: 19 March, 2022 - 02:17 PM by ClearInstinct. Edited 1 time in total.)
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(19 March, 2022 - 02:09 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 02:02 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 01:46 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
I have literally received nothing. No server and no refund.
And you want to give me back 25% only?
I have paid initially to provide you with the server, I am not going to be able to pay full refund after all the time you wasted, 50% all you're getting or nothing.
@Liars, I have provided a good reason for everything, and I don't see why I should refund this while I am the right person here.
(18 March, 2022 - 07:06 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
I got added on Discord at first with the ID of Woes#3526
We started talking about my services and that he needed an IPHM server, we agreed to a price and I got sent the payment. Later on, I sent him the details of the servers and I actually had load balancing servers to spoof out the address with multiple IP addresses. Unfortunately that did not work as intended and I decided to apologize for my mistake later on and asked him to give me a chance for me to send him a new server with IPHM Enabled, he agreed.
I clearly mentioned that if there are any issues regarding my service, you'll be refunded as it appears here: https://prnt.sc/Va7IICwuQmOG
He contacted me on March 15, "Any updates?" and I wasn't able to respond to that because I had personal reasons as well as I don't receive any notifications from Telegram and I have clearly explained that to him later on https://prnt.sc/GH-S6WDhikyabut he was arrogant towards it and he started -repping me using random supreme accounts which is not allowed here, as a return of a response when I asked him to send me his BTC address and his c.to account few minutes later, he said this: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I gave him an estimation that I'd provide the server within the next 24 hours, and usually it can take longer but I said that it'll take up to 24 hours. We started arguing regarding it and I decided to end the conversation with him to not say anything else that would be out of context because he started threatening and I said that I would like to deal this with the staff members of c.to as shown here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
In anyways, I kept trying to conversate with him to deal with his insecurities, he is afraid of me leaving him on delivered, I decided to continue talking to him and you can check this https://prnt.sc/rciKKqSzW0pH
I mentioned that the money wouldn't be returned until I find a fair deal out of c.to initially by the staff members, Imgur: The magic of the Internet and he tried to ask for a "fair" deal but I declined because 1 - He is insecure, 2 - I don't deal with people that plays around with my dignity.. A continue of the conversations is here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
I didn't want to waste any more time and I gave him a plan and told him to be patient: https://prnt.sc/WargEVTjtDQA and there were some important messages there.
I asked here, "Why do you think I am holding the money until now?" and I fr started believing that this person has issues, he doesn't know anything yet he knows how to use a public doxing tool? I mean that's still dumb but anyways, this is the conversation: https://prnt.sc/eAt99k_B2Qyx
This person is just full of disgrace honestly and he doesn't just stop, he likes to keep going with threatening and doxing, I really can't care less but I mentioned why I have a reason to not refund him: https://prnt.sc/axd1pt_f13vn. But otherwise, I've been really nice to him and I have just given him all the patience that I had and that's the end of Telegram conversation here: https://prnt.sc/Ik0mXt7AUR5o.
If you want Discord continuation, I don't mind honestly. But honestly, this isn't acceptable, I understand that failing to deliver services may trigger anger and annoyance, but not to the point where he starts with the -reps, the "I am in contact with the Developer" and the way he also spoke to one of my clients, Grandbam. I mean this conversation is private between me and him and he decided to go to my server and in the public chat calls me a scammer and I actually decided to leave his message there to let the others know of the current situation, but yeah.
This is not done yet, but that's all of what I have to say for now. People who supported me and witnessed me selling them good services, they know that I haven't scammed anybody, and everyone eventually did mistakes, but there are differences in mistakes, and I think what he did doesn't deserve to be refunded and his alt accounts should get banned from c.to.
How are you trying to bargain?
100% seems like a steal to me since you have wasted alot of my time.
Also how is it my fault you have wasted money on a server that did not work as intended?
I am not trying to bargain here, I am being truthful with you and @Liars, you have literally wasted 6 hours of my time and then continued to dox my clients.
I have left you and did not ask you to stop, but you went over the limits and banned you on Discord. You decided to also go over the limits with me and I have held your money until this is resolved on c.to, you literally created a new account on c.to for a scam report, what happened to your alts that were -repping me? I thought it's bannable @Liars
Also a reason that I did not refund the money that day is when I asked you for your c.to profile, you said I don't have one. I also request this get moved to @Barry or somebody who actually would take a look at what I said.
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(19 March, 2022 - 02:14 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 02:09 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 02:02 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
I have paid initially to provide you with the server, I am not going to be able to pay full refund after all the time you wasted, 50% all you're getting or nothing.
@Liars, I have provided a good reason for everything, and I don't see why I should refund this while I am the right person here.
@Liars, read this.
How are you trying to bargain?
100% seems like a steal to me since you have wasted alot of my time.
Also how is it my fault you have wasted money on a server that did not work as intended?
I am not trying to bargain here, I am being truthful with you and @Liars, you have literally wasted 6 hours of my time and then continued to dox my clients.
I have left you and did not ask you to stop, but you went over the limits and banned you on Discord. You decided to also go over the limits with me and I have held your money until this is resolved on c.to, you literally created a new account on c.to for a scam report, what happened to your alts that were -repping me? I thought it's bannable @Liars
Also a reason that I did not refund the money that day is when I asked you for your c.to profile, you said I don't have one. I also request this get moved to @Barry or somebody who actually would take a look at what I said.
Yes i literally did not have an account untill i created one yesterday to open this deal dispute.
How many times did i offer you to solve this problem and you declined every time and wanted c.to staff to resolve it.
Now you are still declining to cooperate , i doubt i will receive my refund because i think you'd rather get banned since you are used to that.
I don't really mind a ban or a refund is both fine with me.
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19 March, 2022 - 02:23 PM(This post was last modified: 19 March, 2022 - 02:27 PM by ClearInstinct. Edited 2 times in total.)
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(19 March, 2022 - 02:20 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 02:14 PM)ClearInstinct Wrote: Show More
(19 March, 2022 - 02:09 PM)Locked444 Wrote: Show More
How are you trying to bargain?
100% seems like a steal to me since you have wasted alot of my time.
Also how is it my fault you have wasted money on a server that did not work as intended?
I am not trying to bargain here, I am being truthful with you and @Liars, you have literally wasted 6 hours of my time and then continued to dox my clients.
I have left you and did not ask you to stop, but you went over the limits and banned you on Discord. You decided to also go over the limits with me and I have held your money until this is resolved on c.to, you literally created a new account on c.to for a scam report, what happened to your alts that were -repping me? I thought it's bannable @Liars
Also a reason that I did not refund the money that day is when I asked you for your c.to profile, you said I don't have one. I also request this get moved to @Barry or somebody who actually would take a look at what I said.
Yes i literally did not have an account untill i created one yesterday to open this deal dispute.
How many times did i offer you to solve this problem and you declined every time and wanted c.to staff to resolve it.
Now you are still declining to cooperate , i doubt i will receive my refund because i think you'd rather get banned since you are used to that.
I don't really mind a ban or a refund is both fine with me.
Since the staff member didn't decide to read my message, you're not getting more than 50% as I said. You deserve nothing back, we tried to resolve and that's true, but your two faced ass kept going back and forth from my server and our telegram chat. What you did was not allowed and it is bannable as well but @Liars can't care to read, so unless you can't convince him as well, don't try to convince me.
@ClearInstinct tagging me here won't do any good or help the case, only admin is authorized to solve deal disputes and they will do. I am not authorized to solve deal disputes.
@ClearInstinct tagging me here won't do any good or help the case, only admin is authorized to solve deal disputes and they will do. I am not authorized to solve deal disputes.
Well I am waiting for @Liars to read the whole message.. I thought you'd want to read it instead. He's coming to me asking not to be blacklisted from my services from a new Discord username, asks for 50% refund while I told him to confirm it with @Liars so he doesn't also say that I didn't pay him, but he said that I am being difficult, and then he starts cussing..
@ClearInstinct tagging me here won't do any good or help the case, only admin is authorized to solve deal disputes and they will do. I am not authorized to solve deal disputes.
Well I am waiting for @Liars to read the whole message.. I thought you'd want to read it instead. He's coming to me asking not to be blacklisted from my services from a new Discord username, asks for 50% refund while I told him to confirm it with @Liars so he doesn't also say that I didn't pay him, but he said that I am being difficult, and then he starts cussing..
Oh my god, did you literally just create a fake discord account to frame me?
@Liars@ Please review his screenshots carefully and notice how he types the exact same way as clearinstinct himself.
This guy has been banned alot in the past allready on other forums, at this point i think it is best to just ban him.
I just came back to this mess and he literally creates a fake discord account to do this lmao.
Think logically, I'm in this situation to try get my money back and you think i would create a discord account and fully admit its me to then continue shittalking?
Thats literally you and even types the same way lmao.
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