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17 February, 2023 - 09:18 AM
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I don't see why we would need to fight again for a decision already-made with another staff forum. The decision has been already made, feel lucky you've received $200 instead of $50. I am done dealing with that shit, I've provided @ Liars with all the proof. This simply doesn't worth my time.
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OP 17 February, 2023 - 12:01 PM
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if you believe you're innocent then you should have no issues with people looking into this DD
You don't need to spend anymore time arguing, liars or another staff member just needs to give their opinion on who is in the right here
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17 February, 2023 - 10:25 PM
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When you provide me with your BTC Address in the deal made with Cry (Other forum staff) You agreed to his decision, you can't just come now and ask me for $100 more when that's already solved.
I don't mind if the staff here give their opinion, I shouldn't even pay you for that lifetime tool that only worked for 3 days, I remind you that in the Cracked.io rules it clearly says "TOS from a seller can be ignored in a DD" I don't mind if the staff here reviews the situation, in fact I would like them to do it, maybe and so you would have to refund us for the tool that we paid $150 for a Lifetime access, and only worked for 3 days and hasn't been updated for 45+ days.
@ Liars please review this case, we have paid the user $150 for a lifetime access to a software that only worked for 3 days. The user got us to pay because of his "Terms of Service" saying "all sales are final", the user also sells the same tool for $75 monthly ( if $75 monthly, $75 / 30 = $2,50/day. We have used the tool for 3 days so basically we need to pay just $7,50 instead of $150 USD. ) We already told the user we don't want his software anymore, the user been delaying the update for 45+ days already.
What's the point of paying for an lifetime license?
Exactly, stop paying monthly fees. But in this case, we paid for this lifetime license and we also continuing paying weekly licenses on another software that does literally the same, just because the seller is too lazy to provide us with an update (and deny to give us a refund because "all sales are final" according their Terms of Service). (We have paid already $120+ in weekly licenses of another software.)
I've saw on Cracked.io Rules, Terms of Service can be ignored in a DD. Lunacy wants you to review this case, so I also agree with him to review it, please review this case and if you see this fair, ask the user to refund us our $142,50 USD (Already removing the amount of the time I've been using his tool, which it's $7,50 USD for 3 days using his shitty tool).
Honestly and personally I don't think it's fair that this user forced us to pay him $150 USD for a lifetime license when the tool worked for only 3 days and we haven't received any update for +45 days, we just get excuses and that's it. Even the staff of another forum said that he personally doesn't think it's fair to force us to pay for a lifetime subscription when the tool only worked for 3 days and it doesn't work anymore until the moment of writing this post.
The user just made us to pay him because "that's what their terms of service says" but cracked.io can ignore TOS in Scam Reports, so I'd like to see your opinion on this @ Liars
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18 February, 2023 - 05:52 PM
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Apologies for the interruptions, but reading the hypocrisy of Pitcher is honestly just giving me a headache. With someone that seems to be so confident with the ToS of Cracked.io (constantly stating that a product's Terms of Service can be ignored in a deal dispute), I find it humourous that whenever a scam report opens up against you, you always seem to drop your ToS in as a means to back out of paying.
During your time on cracked.io, unfortunately deal disputes have been opened up on you on numerous occasions, each time only refunding / replacing the minimum amount (let's not forget how long it takes you to achieve this as well)! Your whole idea of bringing up the idea of disregarding one's ToS is honestly shocking, because quite frankly, you've used your product ToS to escape many a deal disputes.
Is your memory too poor to remember some of these? Well, here's one where you manage to avoid providing your service for weeks. Here's another where you use your product's ToS that you can "take up to 48-72 hours to" deliver boosts - if that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. Oh, if two isn't enough, here's another where you pull the "48-72 hours" card. And these are just the lucky few that managed to collect proof of your nefarious transaction history.
Quite frankly, your service is just a joke. You "pride" yourselves on being the largest boosting service ( we won't even bother to talk about your false advertising in this thread :D ) and can barely afford $150 for a tool? Or perhaps you knew that you could scam / lie / deceive (honestly so many words to choose here) your way out of paying. So, please stop bringing up the whole idea of a ToS in this deal dispute and pay for what you bought & agreed on (a lifetime license).
I think I finally understand the name "CheapBoosts" now - the name isn't describing the pricing of your products, but the owners running it and how cheap they are! Haha Poorons!
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OP 18 February, 2023 - 05:54 PM
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I'm more than happy to let @ Liars review this
since you want liars to review this as well, then let's forget about the previous deal done by other people for me to provide you a working version within 7 days
after all, I can't wait for this DD to be over and also send you the redeemer within a couple days
You need to choose one or the other, not both
either have liars look into this DD completely (the "send a working redeemer within 7 days" will be ignored and you will not be given it within the timeframe) or I will send you the redeemer within the 7 days and liars will look into the VCC deal
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18 February, 2023 - 06:18 PM
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(18 February, 2023 - 05:52 PM)xzerios Wrote: Show MoreApologies for the interruptions, but reading the hypocrisy of Pitcher is honestly just giving me a headache. With someone that seems to be so confident with the ToS of Cracked.io (constantly stating that a product's Terms of Service can be ignored in a deal dispute), I find it humourous that whenever a scam report opens up against you, you always seem to drop your ToS in as a means to back out of paying.
During your time on cracked.io, unfortunately deal disputes have been opened up on you on numerous occasions, each time only refunding / replacing the minimum amount (let's not forget how long it takes you to achieve this as well)! Your whole idea of bringing up the idea of disregarding one's ToS is honestly shocking, because quite frankly, you've used your product ToS to escape many a deal disputes.
Is your memory too poor to remember some of these? Well, here's one where you manage to avoid providing your service for weeks. Here's another where you use your product's ToS that you can "take up to 48-72 hours to" deliver boosts - if that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. Oh, if two isn't enough, here's another where you pull the "48-72 hours" card. And these are just the lucky few that managed to collect proof of your nefarious transaction history.
Quite frankly, your service is just a joke. You "pride" yourselves on being the largest boosting service ( we won't even bother to talk about your false advertising in this thread :D ) and can barely afford $150 for a tool? Or perhaps you knew that you could scam / lie / deceive (honestly so many words to choose here) your way out of paying. So, please stop bringing up the whole idea of a ToS in this deal dispute and pay for what you bought & agreed on (a lifetime license).
I think I finally understand the name "CheapBoosts" now - the name isn't describing the pricing of your products, but the owners running it and how cheap they are! Haha Poorons!
I don't know you, but from the way you talk, it sounds like you're upset about the success of our business (we've found a lot of people like you over the run of cheapboosts, nothing new).
It's not that we can't afford a $150 USD tool, we could pay a lot more than that, but we're not stupid and we won't pay for a worthless tool. We'd rather pay $75 a month for a 100% working tool than $150 lifetime for something that doesn't even work.
At the time of buying the tool, we weren't even on "The Suppliers" discord server meaning we don't even have agreed to the terms of the service, lol. So kindly, stfu.
Yes, we use our Terms of Service in many Scam Reports, you are right. But there is a big difference. We deliver the products with a maximum of 72 hours (many times not even 24 hours), and if we pass 72hrs without delivering our service we are 100% open to provide a refund. (Even though our ToS says "all sales are final".)
Lunacy's ToS just doesn't make sense. They forced us to pay for a tool that literally worked for 3 days and stopped working for +45 days. (It should be mentioned that Lunacy has a working version since day 1. However, he does not provide it to its customers.)
I simply don't want this tool anymore and I want a refund of $142,50 USD.
@ Liars
(18 February, 2023 - 05:54 PM)lunacy Wrote: Show MoreI'm more than happy to let @ Liars review this
since you want liars to review this as well, then let's forget about the previous deal done by other people for me to provide you a working version within 7 days
after all, I can't wait for this DD to be over and also send you the redeemer within a couple days
You need to choose one or the other, not both
either have liars look into this DD completely (the "send a working redeemer within 7 days" will be ignored and you will not be given it within the timeframe) or I will send you the redeemer within the 7 days and liars will look into the VCC deal
Now you want to refuse the deal that you already accepted and according to you, you were going to give us an updated tool after 7 days of waiting?
Hell nah, just give us our refund man.
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OP 18 February, 2023 - 08:24 PM
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(18 February, 2023 - 06:18 PM)Pitcher Wrote: Show More (18 February, 2023 - 05:52 PM)xzerios Wrote: Show MoreApologies for the interruptions, but reading the hypocrisy of Pitcher is honestly just giving me a headache. With someone that seems to be so confident with the ToS of Cracked.io (constantly stating that a product's Terms of Service can be ignored in a deal dispute), I find it humourous that whenever a scam report opens up against you, you always seem to drop your ToS in as a means to back out of paying.
During your time on cracked.io, unfortunately deal disputes have been opened up on you on numerous occasions, each time only refunding / replacing the minimum amount (let's not forget how long it takes you to achieve this as well)! Your whole idea of bringing up the idea of disregarding one's ToS is honestly shocking, because quite frankly, you've used your product ToS to escape many a deal disputes.
Is your memory too poor to remember some of these? Well, here's one where you manage to avoid providing your service for weeks. Here's another where you use your product's ToS that you can "take up to 48-72 hours to" deliver boosts - if that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. Oh, if two isn't enough, here's another where you pull the "48-72 hours" card. And these are just the lucky few that managed to collect proof of your nefarious transaction history.
Quite frankly, your service is just a joke. You "pride" yourselves on being the largest boosting service ( we won't even bother to talk about your false advertising in this thread :D ) and can barely afford $150 for a tool? Or perhaps you knew that you could scam / lie / deceive (honestly so many words to choose here) your way out of paying. So, please stop bringing up the whole idea of a ToS in this deal dispute and pay for what you bought & agreed on (a lifetime license).
I think I finally understand the name "CheapBoosts" now - the name isn't describing the pricing of your products, but the owners running it and how cheap they are! Haha Poorons!
I don't know you, but from the way you talk, it sounds like you're upset about the success of our business (we've found a lot of people like you over the run of cheapboosts, nothing new).
It's not that we can't afford a $150 USD tool, we could pay a lot more than that, but we're not stupid and we won't pay for a worthless tool. We'd rather pay $75 a month for a 100% working tool than $150 lifetime for something that doesn't even work.
At the time of buying the tool, we weren't even on "The Suppliers" discord server meaning we don't even have agreed to the terms of the service, lol. So kindly, stfu.
Yes, we use our Terms of Service in many Scam Reports, you are right. But there is a big difference. We deliver the products with a maximum of 72 hours (many times not even 24 hours), and if we pass 72hrs without delivering our service we are 100% open to provide a refund. (Even though our ToS says "all sales are final".)
Lunacy's ToS just doesn't make sense. They forced us to pay for a tool that literally worked for 3 days and stopped working for +45 days. (It should be mentioned that Lunacy has a working version since day 1. However, he does not provide it to its customers.)
I simply don't want this tool anymore and I want a refund of $142,50 USD.
@ Liars
(18 February, 2023 - 05:54 PM)lunacy Wrote: Show MoreI'm more than happy to let @ Liars review this
since you want liars to review this as well, then let's forget about the previous deal done by other people for me to provide you a working version within 7 days
after all, I can't wait for this DD to be over and also send you the redeemer within a couple days
You need to choose one or the other, not both
either have liars look into this DD completely (the "send a working redeemer within 7 days" will be ignored and you will not be given it within the timeframe) or I will send you the redeemer within the 7 days and liars will look into the VCC deal
Now you want to refuse the deal that you already accepted and according to you, you were going to give us an updated tool after 7 days of waiting?
Hell nah, just give us our refund man.
I'm not refusing it I'm saying you can't have it both ways
what do I give you the redeemer AND have liars look into this case (which you think you should be refunded in)
it's like me opening a scam report on you for not receiving boosts, you sending it to me and then me still wanting the scam report to be open so I have a chance of still getting refunded, it just makes zero sense for you to get the thing you want but also want a refund on it
it's why I said, you can choose one, not both
so what will it be @ Pitcher
do you want the redeemer within 7 days and just have liars look into the VCC deal
or
would you like liars to look into the WHOLE case and you don't get the redeemer until @ Liars has came up with a new deal / opinion
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18 February, 2023 - 08:49 PM
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(18 February, 2023 - 06:18 PM)Pitcher Wrote: Show More (18 February, 2023 - 05:52 PM)xzerios Wrote: Show MoreApologies for the interruptions, but reading the hypocrisy of Pitcher is honestly just giving me a headache. With someone that seems to be so confident with the ToS of Cracked.io (constantly stating that a product's Terms of Service can be ignored in a deal dispute), I find it humourous that whenever a scam report opens up against you, you always seem to drop your ToS in as a means to back out of paying.
During your time on cracked.io, unfortunately deal disputes have been opened up on you on numerous occasions, each time only refunding / replacing the minimum amount (let's not forget how long it takes you to achieve this as well)! Your whole idea of bringing up the idea of disregarding one's ToS is honestly shocking, because quite frankly, you've used your product ToS to escape many a deal disputes.
Is your memory too poor to remember some of these? Well, here's one where you manage to avoid providing your service for weeks. Here's another where you use your product's ToS that you can "take up to 48-72 hours to" deliver boosts - if that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. Oh, if two isn't enough, here's another where you pull the "48-72 hours" card. And these are just the lucky few that managed to collect proof of your nefarious transaction history.
Quite frankly, your service is just a joke. You "pride" yourselves on being the largest boosting service ( we won't even bother to talk about your false advertising in this thread :D ) and can barely afford $150 for a tool? Or perhaps you knew that you could scam / lie / deceive (honestly so many words to choose here) your way out of paying. So, please stop bringing up the whole idea of a ToS in this deal dispute and pay for what you bought & agreed on (a lifetime license).
I think I finally understand the name "CheapBoosts" now - the name isn't describing the pricing of your products, but the owners running it and how cheap they are! Haha Poorons!
I don't know you, but from the way you talk, it sounds like you're upset about the success of our business (we've found a lot of people like you over the run of cheapboosts, nothing new).
It's not that we can't afford a $150 USD tool, we could pay a lot more than that, but we're not stupid and we won't pay for a worthless tool. We'd rather pay $75 a month for a 100% working tool than $150 lifetime for something that doesn't even work.
At the time of buying the tool, we weren't even on "The Suppliers" discord server meaning we don't even have agreed to the terms of the service, lol. So kindly, stfu.
Yes, we use our Terms of Service in many Scam Reports, you are right. But there is a big difference. We deliver the products with a maximum of 72 hours (many times not even 24 hours), and if we pass 72hrs without delivering our service we are 100% open to provide a refund. (Even though our ToS says "all sales are final".)
Lunacy's ToS just doesn't make sense. They forced us to pay for a tool that literally worked for 3 days and stopped working for +45 days. (It should be mentioned that Lunacy has a working version since day 1. However, he does not provide it to its customers.)
I simply don't want this tool anymore and I want a refund of $142,50 USD.
I'm sorry, I couldn't quite understand the part about you not agreeing to a ToS. If you agree to a purchase, then that in turn means you're agreeing to a ToS whether you read it or not and it is your responsibility to read them. If you sign up to a site and don't bother reading a ToS / Privacy Policy and then suddenly your information appears online, who's fault is that. Yours. It's the exact same with a purchase; when you make one, that suggests you agree to the terms of the tool, so "kindly stfu".
And so what if you deliver the boosts within 72h? You market your boosts as instant and so anything other than that is literally just false marketing and thus comes under scamming (as you're promising something that it isn't). By purchasing a lifetime redeemer, you should be aware of the fact that Discord likes to up security measures and patch tools, after all you were encountering many issues with delivering mass DMs back in 2022.
Also (excuse the use of profanity here), what the fuck do you mean you were "forced to pay" LOL. You literally agreed to the purchase - if this isn't the case, please send proof of you arranging a daily cost of the redeemer with lunacy and then lunacy suddenly springing the lifetime fee on you. Nobody forced anyone to pay here, you were completely content with the deal when you arranged it, so no, you won't get a refund for a tool you bought LOL. If say cracked.io was to go down now for a few days, would you be asking for a refund for your rank? If not, then do be quiet.
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