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12 September, 2021 - 07:24 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 05:15 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 05:14 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 05:10 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show MoreIf you're taking a product off the shelves with 0 proof of the accusations, then why did you remove the product in the first place? You have proof that you have a working cheat that is not public and/or being re-sold, correct?
If so, please provide what I asked in the original post -- a video of your tool working, alongside proof that it is indeed you (my example was, Alt-tab out of the game onto your C.to profile to prove its you).
Furthermore, keep in mind you are not allowed to sell tools to customers that originate from this forum as you do not have the sufficient rank (Infinity+), in order to sell those tools.
If you want to prove me wrong, I will gladly close this thread when you provide proof showing the opposite of what is being accused you are doing.
Just makes no sense to me when you're being called out by 2 separate people with no link between them, you go ahead and ban them from your server -- if you want to come off as innocent and we're wrong, you are doing everything opposite of that -- just seems suspect as fuck to me and again, you're welcome to prove me wrong right here in the thread
Ill gladly give you proof right now. Let me get a account and ill get you a video of it. You want c.to profile in the vid? you got it! let me grab an acc and upload it!
Sounds good, feel free to upload it to streamable or somewhere where everybody concerned has access to view your video
Would be a good way to clear your name
here ya go boss. Proof of me doing a "soft unlock" lobby with my profile in the video. Not only did DMU but Damascus for you as well to prove to you and your buddy that not only EO does soft unlock. So as far as your "ripping the video off youtube" comment thats bin proven false and you guys still are yet to bring any proof to the table of me reselling a public cheat. I never sold any items to you or the other party involved. https://streamable.com/18q76w
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OP 12 September, 2021 - 07:59 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 07:24 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 05:15 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 05:14 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show MoreIll gladly give you proof right now. Let me get a account and ill get you a video of it. You want c.to profile in the vid? you got it! let me grab an acc and upload it!
Sounds good, feel free to upload it to streamable or somewhere where everybody concerned has access to view your video
Would be a good way to clear your name
here ya go boss. Proof of me doing a "soft unlock" lobby with my profile in the video. Not only did DMU but Damascus for you as well to prove to you and your buddy that not only EO does soft unlock. So as far as your "ripping the video off youtube" comment thats bin proven false and you guys still are yet to bring any proof to the table of me reselling a public cheat. I never sold any items to you or the other party involved. https://streamable.com/18q76w
Hi thanks for the answer — you have a couple of problems with your reply/video
This DD has nothing to do with a soft unlock service. This DD has to do with a CHEAT that you are/were selling.
This CHEAT, has a MENU ingame. You have failed to demonstrate the CHEAT MENU which I have asked you for.
Again, no one is talking about your soft unlock services. A camo service, and a cheat are 2 completely different things.
I am requesting you to show the CHEAT you are/were selling as well as the MENU for the cheat IN-GAME.
maybe that wasn’t clear enough.
Also, us not having bought anything literally means jack shit
If there is a scammer on this forum who scammed someone else, but didnt scam me, does that mean they arent a scammer since i wasnt the one scammed?
Even if we didn’t buy anything from you, you are doing something that is wrong and bannable on C.to
please reply with a video in the same format as before, that directly proves/disproves what you are being held in a dispute for.
your CHEAT, with an INGAME MENU, the CHEAT that you were selling KEYS/EXECUTABLE FILES for. Not a camo service — 2 completely different things and you know that
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12 September, 2021 - 08:09 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 07:59 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 07:24 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 05:15 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show MoreSounds good, feel free to upload it to streamable or somewhere where everybody concerned has access to view your video
Would be a good way to clear your name
here ya go boss. Proof of me doing a "soft unlock" lobby with my profile in the video. Not only did DMU but Damascus for you as well to prove to you and your buddy that not only EO does soft unlock. So as far as your "ripping the video off youtube" comment thats bin proven false and you guys still are yet to bring any proof to the table of me reselling a public cheat. I never sold any items to you or the other party involved. https://streamable.com/18q76w
Hi thanks for the answer — you have a couple of problems with your reply/video
This DD has nothing to do with a soft unlock service. This DD has to do with a CHEAT that you are/were selling.
This CHEAT, has a MENU ingame. You have failed to demonstrate the CHEAT MENU which I have asked you for.
Again, no one is talking about your soft unlock services. A camo service, and a cheat are 2 completely different things.
I am requesting you to show the CHEAT you are/were selling as well as the MENU for the cheat IN-GAME.
maybe that wasn’t clear enough.
Also, us not having bought anything literally means jack shit
If there is a scammer on this forum who scammed someone else, but didnt scam me, does that mean they arent a scammer since i wasnt the one scammed?
Even if we didn’t buy anything from you, you are doing something that is wrong and bannable on C.to
please reply with a video in the same format as before, that directly proves/disproves what you are being held in a dispute for.
your CHEAT, with an INGAME MENU, the CHEAT that you were selling KEYS/EXECUTABLE FILES for. Not a camo service — 2 completely different things and you know that
Last I checked im not gonna take multiple losses on accounts just to prove a point to you. I've shown you what you have claimed to be "scamming" or "reselling a public cheat" is false and I can provide all services I advertise. I will not be spending my entire night attempting to please someone who has never bought a single thing off of me or has any solid evidence to back up any of his claims. You're calling me a "scammer" when you have zero proof of me reselling anything that's public. the above video was a courtesy as I do not owe you a single thing as you're calling me out on baseless accusations. you have a screenshot from my announcements channel. Please provide your purchase receipt from me and your ticket transcript the bot would've sent you in pdf format after the ticket was closed along side your key for the tool , and video evidence of you opening the tool i provided you that leads to a public cheat menu. Youre calling me a scammer but have no proof I scammed so why do I have to prove I didnt?
edit: Looking through everything it seems as though you "suspect" me of scamming or selling a public cheat which isn't worthy of a dispute. c.to please take whatever action you feel is needed but there is zero solid proof im doing a single thing wrong and there's no need for me to prove my innocence. this isn't guilty until proven innocent.
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OP 12 September, 2021 - 08:20 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 08:09 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 07:59 AM)Bufella Wrote: Show More (12 September, 2021 - 07:24 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show Morehere ya go boss. Proof of me doing a "soft unlock" lobby with my profile in the video. Not only did DMU but Damascus for you as well to prove to you and your buddy that not only EO does soft unlock. So as far as your "ripping the video off youtube" comment thats bin proven false and you guys still are yet to bring any proof to the table of me reselling a public cheat. I never sold any items to you or the other party involved. https://streamable.com/18q76w
Hi thanks for the answer — you have a couple of problems with your reply/video
This DD has nothing to do with a soft unlock service. This DD has to do with a CHEAT that you are/were selling.
This CHEAT, has a MENU ingame. You have failed to demonstrate the CHEAT MENU which I have asked you for.
Again, no one is talking about your soft unlock services. A camo service, and a cheat are 2 completely different things.
I am requesting you to show the CHEAT you are/were selling as well as the MENU for the cheat IN-GAME.
maybe that wasn’t clear enough.
Also, us not having bought anything literally means jack shit
If there is a scammer on this forum who scammed someone else, but didnt scam me, does that mean they arent a scammer since i wasnt the one scammed?
Even if we didn’t buy anything from you, you are doing something that is wrong and bannable on C.to
please reply with a video in the same format as before, that directly proves/disproves what you are being held in a dispute for.
your CHEAT, with an INGAME MENU, the CHEAT that you were selling KEYS/EXECUTABLE FILES for. Not a camo service — 2 completely different things and you know that
Last I checked im not gonna take multiple losses on accounts just to prove a point to you. I've shown you what you have claimed to be "scamming" or "reselling a public cheat" is false and I can provide all services I advertise. I will not be spending my entire night attempting to please someone who has never bought a single thing off of me or has any solid evidence to back up any of his claims. You're calling me a "scammer" when you have zero proof of me reselling anything that's public. the above video was a courtesy as I do not owe you a single thing as you're calling me out on baseless accusations. you have a screenshot from my announcements channel. Please provide your purchase receipt from me and your ticket transcript the bot would've sent you in pdf format after the ticket was closed along side your key for the tool , and video evidence of you opening the tool i provided you that leads to a public cheat menu. Youre calling me a scammer but have no proof I scammed so why do I have to prove I didnt?
Yes, you correct in saying you are allowed to sell your services without problem.
Again, I’m not referring to your services, I’m referring to the cheat program which you’ve admitted to not having coded yourself, and again you are deflecting the issue when I ask to see your cheat menu in-game.
No, I’ve never called you a scammer — Not once in this DD or in any of my previous replies.
Based off of the cheat specs that you posted in a channel that you’ve now deleted, you have copied word for word, and spec for spec, what a specific other cheat has. Same order, same wording, same specs, it all matches up.
I’m not claiming you scammed anyone. I’m claiming you’re reselling a cheat that is public, and that costs less than what you are selling it for.
Many people could interpret that as scamming, even though I’ve never called you a scammer
Please send what your cheat menu ingame looks like to show me that you are indeed not re-selling EO
Liars has said you have 24hr to reply, which I interpret as 24hr to plead your case before your fate gets turned onto staff hands for the outcome
instead of discuss the technicalities and wording with me, why not show your cheat menu ingame? is it really that difficult to take a short screenshot or gif proving that you are not re-selling public shit?
also, you keep referring to proof — the only proof available was the ones you deleted
Why purge your discord server and delete the channel where it had all the cheat info?
You’re sus as fuck and i request staff to make this dude show his cheat menu, as its simple as all hell to do.
you’re sus and you’re not providing what i’ve asked for since the beginning
EDIT: Re-selling a PUBLIC cheat which you are UNAUTHORIZED to re-sell, at a HIGHER price than the ORIGINAL cheat manufacturer is 150% WORTHY OF A DD.
EDIT2: So lets get the timeline straight:
- Buddy of mine asks if you're re-selling a public cheat --> you ban him (already starting to act sus)
- I join the server, you have no clue who i am
- I ask to purchase your cheat in a ticket --> you automatically close the ticket seconds later
- you deleted the cheat channel, and place an announcement saying you aren't going to be re-selling other peoples work any longer
- I post the DD, asking for cheat menu to be shown --> you ban me from your server
- You refuse to show the cheat menu, and say I'm the one with burden of proof here
I do not have burden of proof here, considering I was banned, alongside another member, when asking questions about your "cheat"
it's as simple as showing the cheat menu ingame (for the 5,000th time), and I'll close the DD --> If you are so innocent, why did you ban 2 separate members asking about your cheat and if its being re-sold? Care to explain?
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12 September, 2021 - 08:31 AM
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As stated before. I have done nothing wrong and there is zero need for me to prove my innocence when you have no proof of me doing anything wrong. you're yet to provide any valid proof on me selling anything such as EO. all you have is Text , 1 screenshot and that's it. You have no keys from me that lead to any public cheats , no video evidence and no purchase receipts. Im not here to prove anything to you when you have nothing to back it up. If you had keys , video proof or anything else then yes you'd be 100% right on your dispute but at this point this is all words and you have no proof of me doing a single thing. You "suspect" me of doing something wrong. C.to cant decide what they want to do. Go give me any of the things listed above or someone ive sold a public cheat to then we can talk further on this issue until then everything in this thread is a grab at my reputation as a seller. you keep holding on to "providing what ive asked for" just wondering why im required to? you have nothing on me and this is all he said she said. I do not owe you anything or any "proof" of my tool, you can call me sus or whatever you want. I call it not giving into what people want just because they tell you to. If you had solid evidence I could get with you asking me to prove it but you have no videos of the launcher , no keys or anything so im not required to give you anything. yet again you view me as "suspect" which isnt a reason to dispute, Nobody has bin scammed from me or sold anything public from me and you cant prove it otherwise. Until then I will not be providing you with any "proof" as that would lead to "Guilty until proven innocent" which is 100% not fair and im not with it
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OP 12 September, 2021 - 08:35 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 08:31 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show MoreAs stated before. I have done nothing wrong and there is zero need for me to prove my innocence when you have no proof of me doing anything wrong. you're yet to provide any valid proof on me selling anything such as EO. all you have is Text , 1 screenshot and that's it. You have no keys from me that lead to any public cheats , no video evidence and no purchase receipts. Im not here to prove anything to you when you have nothing to back it up. If you had keys , video proof or anything else then yes you'd be 100% right on your dispute but at this point this is all words and you have no proof of me doing a single thing. You "suspect" me of doing something wrong. C.to cant decide what they want to do. Go give me any of the things listed above or someone ive sold a public cheat to then we can talk further on this issue until then everything in this thread is a grab at my reputation as a seller. you keep holding on to "providing what ive asked for" just wondering why im required to? you have nothing on me and this is all he said she said. I do not owe you anything or any "proof" of my tool, you can call me sus or whatever you want. I call it not giving into what people want just because they tell you to. If you had solid evidence I could get with you asking me to prove it but you have no videos of the launcher , no keys or anything so im not required to give you anything. yet again you view me as "suspect" which isnt a reason to dispute, Nobody has bin scammed from me or sold anything public from me and you cant prove it otherwise. Until then I will not be providing you with any "proof" as that would lead to "Guilty until proven innocent" which is 100% not fair and im not with it
So lets get the timeline straight:
- Buddy of mine asks if you're re-selling a public cheat --> you ban him (already starting to act sus)
- I join the server, you have no clue who i am
- I ask to purchase your cheat in a ticket --> you automatically close the ticket seconds later
- you deleted the cheat channel, and place an announcement saying you aren't going to be re-selling other peoples work any longer
- I post the DD, asking for cheat menu to be shown --> you ban me from your server
- You refuse to show the cheat menu, and say I'm the one with burden of proof here
I do not have burden of proof here, considering I was banned, alongside another member, when asking questions about your "cheat"
it's as simple as showing the cheat menu ingame (for the 5,000th time), and I'll close the DD --> If you are so innocent, why did you ban 2 separate members asking about your cheat and if its being re-sold? Care to explain?
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This is NOT a court of law, so stop using the same methodology in "Guilty until proven innocent" -- This is a website, which you've agreed to the terms and rules when signing up
You have already broken a rule by selling tools to customers acquired off C.to, as you are unable to sell members tools unless you are rank Infinity or above.
You are clearly selling public cheats if instead of acting this way, you would just show your cheat menu and that would be the end of it.
Please answer my question above in the timeline, as well as answer this:
Why not show your cheat menu?
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EDIT3: You might want to change your discord link on all of your threads + your signature now considering you changed the invite link so no one can join it now
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12 September, 2021 - 08:40 AM
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see bud theres 1 great answer to all of this. Its my discord and I can do as I see fit! Im done arguing! Ive told you to provide proof of me doing any wrong doing then we can talk! you opened a dispute while "suspecting" me of doing something wrong. yet again "sus" shit is not a reason for dispute please edit your thread when you have valid proof of wrong doing done by me. cheers have a good one! c.to I accept whatvever your decision is and I appreciate your time!
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OP 12 September, 2021 - 08:41 AM
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(12 September, 2021 - 08:40 AM)MakasMarket Wrote: Show Moresee bud theres 1 great answer to all of this. Its my discord and I can do as I see fit! Im done arguing! Ive told you to provide proof of me doing any wrong doing then we can talk! you opened a dispute while "suspecting" me of doing something wrong. yet again "sus" shit is not a reason for dispute please edit your thread when you have valid proof of wrong doing done by me. cheers have a good one! c.to I accept whatvever your decision is and I appreciate your time!
Can't regain the proof that was on the server considering you banned us from it + purged all the info on there + deleted channels + blocked us from discord
ERGO, my proof is as follows:
Show your cheat menu here (or privately to staff, idc) to prove me wrong about you re-selling EO in the exact same fashion, specs, setup, and wording that they use
OR
You admit you're re-selling public shit and dont have a private cheat owned by yourself to share in this DD, which is why you won't post a pic of the cheat menu
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