before posting in ebook staff needs to review it

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a lot of people are selling shitty/saturated methods, feel like this would stop shitty/public methods from being sold.

also if this is implicated maybe add like a resource staff or something.

 

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they won't, already requested this 1/2 years ago.

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The problem is that staff review has the same importance as vouch from a trusted member. If a user scams with his ebook, and under the condition that the book was reviewed by the staff, it can lead into troubles. Also a customer who isn't satisfied with the ebook and his income from the methods will call out the mod who has reviewed it.

Maybe have a label saying "Although we reviewed it we don't endorse it". and also there is a always a risk of people scamming out, it just that I feel like w/ reviewed ebooks shitty ones will be filtered out, and if a person choose to scam out with the ebook, since staff reviewed it they can give the ebook and the scammers thread be closed. 

i agree with your statement is just that this way people won't be or have a less likely chance of buying a ebook that's bad

 

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I think more accountability for vouch copies, and maybe proof required that you made money; like real hard proof. Too many people are throwing "proof of income" out there that's just fake. Although I would like there to be a rank specifically for testing different methods and having a trusted user (who may not be on the staff team) I just don't think that's going to happen. There would be pushback from legitimate sellers and scammers obviously; due to the risk of the method(s) being leaked.

Looking at what happened with @Tigeh and I, it could have been avoided if he actually didn't receive "vouches" from his business partners and friends. It's misleading and wrong that users will lie on vouch copy reviews.

NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL NEVER DECLINE TO CONFIRM ON SITE, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

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a lot of people are selling shitty/saturated methods, feel like this would stop shitty/public methods from being sold.

also if this is implicated maybe add like a resource staff or something.

Well, no.

Staff doesn't have the will, the time, and the knowledge to verify every ebook. For instance, I could write an ebook to teach ransomware gangs how to exploit made-up CVEs, and Staff wouldn't ever, not in a thousand years, figure out it's complete bullshit. This is a bit extreme, but it's just to prove my point: you cannot review something you know nothing about. And if you do know, why would you buy my ebook? Once you realize this, you as a seller have an immense advantage over the marketplace. Mix this with a bit of overly aggressive marketing, and you will beat your competition in no time.

Secondly: vouch reviews written by the community are an absolute joke, mainly because of my first point. You know people do not even try to understand the ebooks just by reading the vouch reviews. They are so general and vague that they're uncomfortable to read. Someone could develop a bot that writes better vouch reviews just by selecting random sentences from a given list.

Why is it that vouches are so useless most of the time? It's because when you have a community based around circle jerking each other off for reputation because that's how your worthiness is measured, it becomes evident that the best way to market your product is to (1) lick asses in the shoutbox and social engineer users into liking you, (2) find dumb people that the community would value reputable to vouch for your stuff. We have people who build their profiles with the entire purpose of farming vouch copies, and by doing so, they help sellers advertise their garbage and intoxicate the marketplace.

If you don't believe me, ask yourself whether you would rather give a vouch copy to a Heaven user with 1500 reputation and 5000 likes or an unupgraded user that knows what you're talking about, perhaps with the risk of getting a negative review that would not get removed. But again, people don't give a shit as long as the money flow, and if you were to get caught, you can always refund that single customer (this works extremely good when selling data) or pay a "fee" to get back into the marketplace.

Anyone who likes a sweet lie over the harsh truth will just tell you that scams are normal in a big marketplace, ignoring the fact that it's the community that enables these people.

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This sounds like a good suggestion, but the administrators don't seem to have enough time and energy to do this.

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This is a bump

 

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This is a bump